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Old 07-19-2015, 09:59 PM   #1
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Sway problems with Open Range Journery 337RLS TT

We love our new OR, but have had sway problems. Have sway bars, load leveler, etc. and do pretty well up to 60mph, but if I go past 60, trailer starts to sway to point that anti-sway safety feature on truck kicks in and slows rig down and straightens it out. Sway bars installed by dealer. TV is a new F150, Ecoboost V6, with tow package options with 11,200lb tow capacity. Trailer dry weight is 8.000lb. Not sure if load leveler needs to be adjusted (so more tongue weight), or if my TV is too small. Was thinking about F250, but read about guy with similar sway problem on OR TT and ended up totaling his 250 and TT. Would much appreciate any recommendations. Thanks

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Old 07-19-2015, 10:19 PM   #2
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For towing a TT always get more truck than you "think" is ok!

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Old 07-20-2015, 10:48 AM   #3
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What WDH and sway control do you have. I had an EaseLift WDH and friction type sway control on my last TT (9500lbs loaded/1250lbs hitch weight) and it was awful to tow over 60mph. I got an Equalizer WDH with built in sway control and it was like night and day. The sway was gone. A good hitch makes a big difference.
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Old 07-20-2015, 12:34 PM   #4
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If the work coming out of your dealer is anything like I have seen, I would not trust their work without a critical analysis. My dealer got the hitch set up wrong, the duel battery set up wrong and failed to water test leak repairs and failed in that repair also. Check out Fords owner manual on WDH setup and get out a tape measure. YRMV, but I trust few mechanics in this world, I just find too many mistakes going behind them. My F150 handles totally different after I redid the dealers attempt to set up my WDH.
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Old 07-21-2015, 06:14 AM   #5
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I don't think the weight of the trailer is the factor that is causing the sway. I'm sure that you could tow the same weight if it were a short dual axle equipment trailer, but the length of the trailer along with the height, makes for one really big wind catcher! With TTs the hitch is the point that exerts force from sway to the tow vehicle. The farther back the axles the more it can exert. That, and the trucks hitch is probably 5 foot behind the axle and that is like a huge lever increasing force on the truck. It is all leverage and force multiplied by the longer trailer and the lengths from truck axle to hitch, and hitch to trailer axle. These longer Travel Trailers need a steadier truck pulling them. A heavier diesel motor plants the front axle better than a gas motor and keeps the truck from being swayed. Small sway doesn't become big sway. It is like wave action in a tote box. If you can't hold it steady, it gets worse and you spill (crash).
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Old 07-21-2015, 02:47 PM   #6
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Sway probems - Open Range 337 RLS TT

Thanks for your replies -- The WDH is an "Equal-I-zer" model 90-00-1000, which says it has Max Tongue Wt of 1000 lbs and Max Trailer Wt of 10,000 lbs. Dealer sold it to me and installed (which sounds like I can't place much reliance on). I welcome any other comments/ suggestions. In the meantime, I'll research the set up and see if dealer did it right or needs to be adjusted. I am Hoping that takes care of problem, b/c not ready to trade my new 150 yet on a diesel 250, unless I have to. Thanks!
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Old 07-21-2015, 05:46 PM   #7
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JMO but that's too much TT for that truck. TT dry weight is not 8000lbs it's 8870lbs according to the OR web site. The 8000lbs you talk of is the axle weight. You still need to include the tongue weight in dry weight. That means if you're loading like the rest of us you have added about 1000lbs to that TT. That along with propane and batteries will get you near 10,000lbs. With the normal 10-15% tongue weight required and 12.5% being optimum you have a TW near 1250lbs. More than the F150 receiver is capable of handling.
Couple that with a more than likely crappy install job by the dealer and it' no wonder you have sway issues.

You need to think seriously about upgrading to a 3/4 ton truck. In the mean time check the install of the WD hitch. Your F150 needs to have the front end returned to 0-50% of it's original height. That means if you measure the front end unloaded and it's 40" to the fender well from the ground and then hitch up without the WD bars and it's 42" from the ground up, then you need the front to be 40-41" after you attach the spring bars. That will help get the truck to steer better.

You still need at least a 1200lb+ rated WD hitch to accommodate the 10,000lb loaded TT.
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Old 07-21-2015, 08:18 PM   #8
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This is very helpful. Just to be clear on your last comment, sounds like I need to buy new WD hitch that handles 1200+ lb tongue weight, since mine is rated for only 1000 lbs. Is that right? fyi - for some reason my TT weight is 500 lbs less than the OR website says. (not that it really matters that much - I agree, I need a bigger truck). Thx
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Old 07-21-2015, 08:41 PM   #9
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Getting a higher weight rated WD seems like the thing to do. But something to make certain of is the actual weight of the loaded TT and the TW of the loaded TT. Those will determine what size WD you really need. If you can get the F150 setup as I described as far as the front fender well measurement and take it to the nearest scale and get it weighed you'll have all the info you need. Make sure you're loaded as close to possible as if you were camping.

Once you get it weighed you can then determine if the 1000lb WD is doable. Obviously if you can't return the front of the F150 back to 0-50% of it's original height then it's probably a good assumption that the TW is too heavy for the 1000lb bars. If that's the case then you may be reaching the limits of the F150 receiver as well.
#1 priority is getting it weighed.

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