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Old 01-06-2007, 06:37 AM   #15
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Ditto "apackof2"! Based on my personal experience with TVs, don't underestimate your current AND future TV requirements. Allow for future upgrades to your TT or 5th wheel. In the case of TVs, more is defintely better IMO.
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Old 01-06-2007, 06:57 AM   #16
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by apackof2:

I figured getting about 15-16 mpg HWY with a 1/2 ton.

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We got 10 mpg towing our 5000 lb. trailer with our 1/2 ton truck with 4.10 differential. I usually drove about 62 to 65 mph on the interstate.

The best I could do without the trailer was about 14 mpg (combined stop-and-go, suburban, and some interstate driving). If I remember correctly, the EPA estimates were 13 or 14 city and 16 or 17 highway, but don't hold me to that. EPA estimates are usually overly optimistic.

Our truck was a 2002 and whether mileage has improved or not, I doubt if a 3/4 ton truck would be much different than the 1/2 ton under the same conditions.
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:30 PM   #17
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Well so much for the manufacturer's fuel consumption ratings!


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by paz:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by apackof2:

I figured getting about 15-16 mpg HWY with a 1/2 ton.

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We got 10 mpg towing our 5000 lb. trailer with our 1/2 ton truck with 4.10 differential. I usually drove about 62 to 65 mph on the interstate.

The best I could do without the trailer was about 14 mpg (combined stop-and-go, suburban, and some interstate driving). If I remember correctly, the EPA estimates were 13 or 14 city and 16 or 17 highway, but don't hold me to that. EPA estimates are usually overly optimistic.

Our truck was a 2002 and whether mileage has improved or not, I doubt if a 3/4 ton truck would be much different than the 1/2 ton under the same conditions. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Old 01-07-2007, 02:34 PM   #18
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Our 1-ton dually gets 10.5 to 11 MPG towing a heavy 5th wheel (tall, with lots of air resistance) at 65 MPH and around 17 MPG at 75 MPH unloaded. Of course, it's a diesel.

My point is that, chosen correctly, a larger truck doesn't necessarily equate to poorer fuel economy.

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Like Rusty, we are towing fairly heavy and a 4.10 axle with a diesel and get 10 to 11 mpg while running 65 to 70 MPH.

We could not get that when we had an Explorer towint 3600#.

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For those wanting to improve milage, I have proved to myself that you can improve milage considerably with nothing more than driving habits. To do this I will drive NO more than 60, less is better. I don't use more than about 1/4" of throttle peddle when possible, anticipate slow downs ahead & coast down instead of maintaining speed and jumping on the brakes (better brake milage too). Starting out go gently (unless you need to get out of some body's way).
Last Labor Day weekend we took truck W/camper & TT to the ocean where we met my daughter & family. My GCVW was at least 20K. When I have done this before I didn't drive more tha 60 and got about 10.5 MPG. This trip I drove no more than 55 and where I wasn't holding anybody up I went about 50. I got 13 MPG on this 300 mile trip.
We have made 3 trips to eastern Wa. with our 03 Honda Civic and got between 41 & 42 on each trip driving no more than 60 and not pushing it on the hills . Best we had gotten before anytime was 38.
I have a 91 Pontiac W/V6 that isn't one bit ashamed to get 20MPG or less with any pushing. Using above measures I am getting 24 to 26 with local driving. The way I figure it that is about 60 cents a gal. saving.
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My last post I forgot to post my current ecconomy of my '07 tahoe with 5.3L motor, its rated to get over 20 MPG, we get 13.5 to 15 on the highway empty with the cruise set and taking it easy, and as low as 12 around town. Towing our jeep to moab (approx weight of jeep and trailer, 5000 lbs) 600 mile round trip, we got just under 10 MPG.
As mentioned above, with a larger/heavier truck (F350 PSD) towing 5000 lbs I get 15-16 MPG and towing our 13000 lbs 5th I get 10-11.

1/2 tons make excellent grocery getters, but not much else. So many of us STRONGLY recomend getting at least a 3/4 ton because we have all made the 1/2 ton mistake!!!

I love our 1/2 ton tahoe, but I do not ever plan to use it as a tow vehical (had to once, because the ford broke down).
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My work truck is a 2006 Ram 1500 with the 4.7L, 3.55 axle (towing package, HA HA) and I would not attempt to pull more than 3500# with this truck. High way solo it averages about 16.5 mpg at 70 MPH and around town 13 to 14.5 MPG.

I can get the same fuel mileage with my F350 dually and it has a 4.10 axle.

It is a great truck to haul home a few garden supplies and groceries. When I built my fence, I loaded mt F350 dually with 20, 60# bags of cement, 20, 4x4x8' treated post, two 100' rolls of wire and about 16 heavy T post. It was a light load for this truck. My RAM 1500 starts to suffer with only 900# in the bed.

The 1/2 ton vehicles are fine if you do not expect too much from them.
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Well I am convinced that unless I tow something really light, like a 17ft Casita or a 19ft fifth Wheel Scamp, I need at least a 3/4 ton




<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TXiceman:
My work truck is a 2006 Ram 1500 with the 4.7L, 3.55 axle (towing package, HA HA) and I would not attempt to pull more than 3500# with this truck. High way solo it averages about 16.5 mpg at 70 MPH and around town 13 to 14.5 MPG.

I can get the same fuel mileage with my F350 dually and it has a 4.10 axle.

It is a great truck to haul home a few garden supplies and groceries. When I built my fence, I loaded mt F350 dually with 20, 60# bags of cement, 20, 4x4x8' treated post, two 100' rolls of wire and about 16 heavy T post. It was a light load for this truck. My RAM 1500 starts to suffer with only 900# in the bed.

The 1/2 ton vehicles are fine if you do not expect too much from them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by apackof2:
Well I am convinced that unless I tow something really light, like a 17ft Casita or a 19ft fifth Wheel Scamp, I need at least a 3/4 ton

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Even if you start with something light, the 3/4 ton truck will give you the option to move to a larger trailer in the future.

A wise, long-time RVer once told me when he found out I was buying my first travel trainer many years ago to "buy the biggest RV you can now because you are going to end up with it someday anyway."
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Take a look at the new 07 Silverado with the 6.0L Max engine and the Max tow package. The engine is 360+HP coupled to a HD 3/4T 4speed tranny and a 3/4T HD rear gearset. The engine features the new active fuel mgmt (4/8cyl operation). The GCVR is 16000 lbs. The package is available on both extended and crew cabs. You might also take a look at the new Tundra with the new V8 and 6-speed auto.

As for me, I just ordered an 07 Chevy 2500HD (March delivery) to replace my 99 Tahoe as both my tow vehicle and daily driver. The drivetrain on this truck features a 352HP version of the 6.0L V8 along with a 6-speed auto that features a low first gear, mid range second, close coupled third and fourth and two overdrives in fifth and sixth. The GVWR is 22000 lbs. It should tow my 6000 lb AF with no problems.

The Tahoe was doing OK with the AF, but I was at the maximium weight ratings in both the GCWR and the RAGWR. After getting the Fox, I upgraded the Tahoe's shocks and tires to make things more stable along with getting a new WD hitch with 1000lb bars.

One more quick note, the EPA does not require fuel milage estiamtes on 3/4T and larger trucks.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Randy the sly old fox:
The engine features the new active fuel mgmt (4/8cyl operation). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We have owned our 07 tahoe with this NEW fuel magmt system for about a year now (15,000 miles), I am here to tell you its a joke, a marketing gimmick. The only time I ever see the 4 cyl mode, is going down hill, with a tail wind, coasting! If you touch the throtle at all it goes to V8 mode.
I really like everything else about the car.
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Gearman,

Just curious - what kind of mileage are you getting on your Tahoe?
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I have also heard this about the Active Fuel Mgt system and the Tahoe. I know that the 6.0L MAX has it - I don't think the 2500HD will have it - it has the 6 speed tranny with double OD. I have seen a Silverado video that shows the 4cyl mode while on the open road - must be either trick electronics or good video editing.
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