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Old 03-15-2015, 10:45 AM   #29
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Can't tow mine with a short bed, or at least turn with it. Lots of units can't be. Rounded corners on a fifth wheel cuts storage area. This is in limited supply on units also. Not an area I want to sacrifice.
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Old 03-15-2015, 10:51 AM   #30
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Glen west, that's why I said most newer fivers as the majority of the new fivers have the rounded corners when we were shopping.
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My 38' 5er turns and backs in easily, it has rounded corners and I use an Andersen ultimate connection hitch. 6.5' bed too.
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Old 03-15-2015, 11:17 AM   #32
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Glen west, that's why I said most newer fivers as the majority of the new fivers have the rounded corners when we were shopping.
You are referring to the low cost units on market. DRV, Excel, many other higher end units don't round corners because of reduced storage and customers needs out weigh this.
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Ok, but again the majority do. Those are not the majority. The OP does not have one of those and neither do I or for that case the majority.
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Was not trying to be conformational. An uninformed reader could have read your statement and come to conclusion that they shouldn't be concerned with a shortbed truck on many unit.
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Was not trying to be conformational. An uninformed reader could have read your statement and come to conclusion that they shouldn't be concerned with a shortbed truck on many unit.
Of the five units I have owned and towed with short bed GM trucks over the past 26+ years, only the last one has rounded corners. All the older units had boxy front caps just like the high end units still have today. So, back in the day, before sliders were even invented and every fiver had a boxy front cap, it was just a matter of knowing the limitation, which was around 65 degrees, and being willing to do a little more jockeying back and forth on rare occasions. Which also has the benefit of less side forces on the fiver suspension.

Today the solutions are so plentiful, the real issue is deciding which one. Notched front cap, manual slider, auto slider, factory installed Reese Revolution or aftermarket Reese Sidewinder (both fully automatic). Or, like I did for 22+ years, none of the above.
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Old 03-15-2015, 11:52 PM   #36
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I love my egg shape front on the heartland unit. My 15000 lbs unit tows much better then the previous 12000 lbs square sloped back front.
One engineer asked me my towing mileage and I told him that it was great and explained to him why. And without knowing it was his trailer I pointed that had a bad flat front. He understood exactly what I meant. But I felt bad about my answer.
The radius fronts do work and no one needs roof mounted air deflectors anymore.
I loose maybe 1 cubic ft in each corner while gaining over 18 inches due to no back slope. It hardly shows in my front closet.
This front design first introduced by Heartland works and is very effective for space and fuel mileage. And it was introduced for standard box trucks to tow 5th wheels, after all they dominates the market.
I do love my long box but find that the front of my truck has to swing much more to maneuver the RV compared to my previous standard box equipped truck. For me advantage shorter wheelbase for that. Ride is a completely different story, my longer truck is super.
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Excellent post, and that's one reason I bought the Heartland Landmark. I really like the front design, and I don't miss the miniscule amount of space I lose due to the cap design. Another thing is, I made the salesman let me hook up the trailer and test the turn radius, and also to check for bed to trailer height, and to see how the truck would sit with it attached. I think I took them by surprise, but I didn't want any surprises down the road. It worked out good for us.
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We care a lot more about living space than outside looks. We would not sacrifice the inside space for that.
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We care a lot more about living space than outside looks. We would not sacrifice the inside space for that.
If my wife lost closet space there would be HE!! to pay!
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