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Old 09-23-2016, 12:22 PM   #1
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Tow brakes while driving on highway

I have a RAM 2500 2012 diesel towing a 14000 lb fifth wheel. I have always been told to have my tow brake at 6.5% when towing down the road. My question is, is that necessary when driving at 65 mph on a relatively flat road? I have gone about 30,000 miles and had to get new brake pads and drums. Can I put the 5th wheel brake on 0% until I get into traffic or go down hill?
Any opinions would be appreciated. Thank you
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Your brakes do nothing when they aren't being used, like a long stretch of open road. When you really need them, you really need them, and you will not have time to adjust anything.

The brake controller is a safety feature/device. Adjust it for the braking force you need for towing the trailer, and leave it there.
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Trailer brakes should ONLY come on when you BRAKE.
Truck and trailer brakes should act together when you press on truck brake pedal.

Brake controller should be set up so that trailer brakes brake trailer (truck brakes brake truck)

SO be NO output from brake controller when you are not braking....and then when you brake controller output should be proportional to amount of braking. (a little braking action to full on emergency braking)
Manual lever on controller should be full braking action.


Trailer brakes need to be properly manually adjusted
Then brake controller set up for trailer braking

Read this manual-electric brakes (Whole manual then pay attention to following pages)
PG. 13 ....manual adjustments
THEN
PG. 12 ...synchronizing brakes
PG. 18-19 ......troubleshooting

http://www.dexteraxle.com/i/u/614960...ric_Brakes.pdf
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Old 09-23-2016, 01:06 PM   #5
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I agree with the previous post that you should read-up on how brakes work. As my brakes wear I have to bump up the controller to compensate until I can get around to adjusting them. Why we don't have auto-adjusting brakes, or better yet disk brakes, on our rolling mansions is beyond me.
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Are you one of those two-foot drivers whose left toe is always on the brake pedal? If you are, there's your answer - keep your left foot on the floor where it belongs.

When I was in the auto service business I had a customer destroy the brakes on a new Nissan pickup in 3,000 miles. When I say destroyed, he was caliper piston-to-cooling fins on the front - lining gone, pad backing plates gone, rotors gone.

He asked how that could happen and demanded it be repaired under warranty. The truck was an automatic trans and I asked him if he drove with two feet. He said he did. I told him 'this one's on you, pal, that's not a factory defect.'

I'm not accusing the OP of being two-footed, just offering it as a possible explanation.

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Whoever told you to set it to a number without testing it, is just blowing smoke.

When you have a controller correctly adjusted, you should not feel a push or pull from the trailer. When you get it right, leave it alone.
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Are you one of those two-foot drivers whose left toe is always on the brake pedal? If you are, there's your answer - keep your left foot on the floor where it belongs.

When I was in the auto service business I had a customer destroy the brakes on a new Nissan pickup in 3,000 miles. When I say destroyed, he was caliper piston-to-cooling fins on the front - lining gone, pad backing plates gone, rotors gone.

He asked how that could happen and demanded it be repaired under warranty. The truck was an automatic trans and I asked him if he drove with two feet. He said he did. I told him 'this one's on you, pal, that's not a factory defect.'

I'm not accusing the OP of being two-footed, just offering it as a possible explanation.

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I'm guessing he got crappie fuel mileage with his foot always on the brake. LOL

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1st off unless you have 4.10 gears then no 12 2500 is rated to tow 14,000lbs. Plus that would equate to 2800lbs on the pin. No 2500 diesel is rated for that much pin weight. 2nd there's no one number fits all. Whoever told you to use 6.5 knows nothing about towing.
You brakes are worn out because you're towing too much weight and don't have the controller set right. You should have it set to Heavy Elec and with that much weight be at 10.


I've got 42,000 on my 12 and the brakes are hardly used.
Time to re-evaluate what you're towing and towing with.
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Thank you for all the posts. I need to correct my post. It was the trailer pads and drum that needed to be changed. The truck brakes are still good at 85,000 miles. They are the original pads.
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Don't see anyone asking, so I will... Do you use the engine brake when towing ?
There is no 'magic' number on the brake controller. It would be different on most every setup...

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Do you use the engine brake when towing ?
Does Jacobs even make a Jake Brake engine brake for the smaller Cummins diesel engines in pickups? I know they make an obnoxousy loud Jake Brake for the 15L diesels in the big trucks. And Jacobs does not make a Jake Brake for a Ford diesel. So we have to use an exhaust brake instead of an engine brake.

I had an aftermarket exhaust brake in my '99.5 Ford diesel. It was set up to be automatic so it came on any time the go pedal was not pressed. In the rare case when I wanted to coast, I turned off the exhaust brake with a switch on the dash. It worked great, and I used it all the time when towing. I never had any problem with worn trailer brake shoes, nor with abnormal wear on the caliper brake pads on the truck.

So if the current crop of exhaust brakes that are available on new diesel trucks work as good as the aftermarket exhaust brake on my tow vehicle 17 years ago, then I'd say use it all the time when towing.
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Yes I have an engine brake and an exhaust brake. They work great and probably what kept my truck brakes in such good condition. Going down hill is easy and the truck holds the trailer just fine or slows it down if I take my foot off the accelerator pedal.
I do not drive with two feet.
The tongue weight on this trailer is 1380 lbs.

My question is when going down the road on a highway do I need trailer brakes at 6.5%.

That was answered by "old-biscuit" and the user manual he included so kindly.
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i had three 5ver's and i adjusted like many in my area...i have gravel road for short distance on our road...i went about 10-15 mph and made fairly quick stop and adjusted knob to just make the trailer skid/// it worked very good on every trailer i hauled...=== of course my truck had ABS so wouldnt skid
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