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Old 04-13-2011, 10:36 AM   #1
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tow vehicle fuel mileage ?

i am asking the 1 ton dually owners to tell me what is there avg fuel mileage when "not towing."
I currently have a f 250 cc 4by4, turbo diesel, i just fitted my truck with some Timbren springs, and am going to take a trip pulling my fifth wheel trailer in a few weeks. the fifth wheel is a Palomino Puma 356QLB model. If the Timbrens dont help with the ride, i will be looking to buy a 1 ton cc 4by4 dually for towing.
I am curious what the fuel mileage is for the larger truck when your not towing, because my truck is also my daily transportation, i currently get avg. 13mpg driving in town to and from work.
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I get as high as 16.9 on the open road,about 13-14 in all around(city/highway).Towing from 8-12 depending on terrain.
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You do not say what engine you have in your Ford. Late model Fords do not do well in the MPG department. I just sold a 2007 D/A dually...got 10.5 to 11.5 towing a 14k 5th wheel and 17/18 local empty.
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My ford is a 2006 with a 6.0 turbo diesel

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You do not say what engine you have in your Ford. Late model Fords do not do well in the MPG department. I just sold a 2007 D/A dually...got 10.5 to 11.5 towing a 14k 5th wheel and 17/18 local empty.
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Ford Diesels were 7.3 99 to (i believe ) 2005.
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I have a 2011, F350 DRW CC 4x4 that I drive daily. It has just over 3900 miles....With the two Trip settings, I use Trip A for checking mileage between fuel fillups and Trip B just to check the mileage over longer periods.

This tank is 16.3 on Trip A with 290 miles and B is 15.5 with 945 miles. I have had it read as high as 18.7 on the highway running 60-65 mph on a 100 mile trip. It is also ugly to watch the trip guage when it goes into exhaust cleaning. I had a 2002 Silverado HD2500 4x2 before this truck and it averaged 16.8 mpg doing the same driving....so can't really complain.

Towing a 34ft Excel 5th wheel that weights 'bout 14,900 with a pin of 3050#, I average 10.5-11 mpg. Even though the truck sets just over level... I added Firestone airbags to the rear.
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Ford introduced the 6.0l turbo diesel in 2003 to 2007, then the 6.4l turbo diesel in 2008 to 2010. the new 6.7l turbo diesel is made by ford for 2011
the 6.0 and 6.4 engines were made by Navistar aka International .

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IMHO, Ford needs to build an engine and then stick with it rather than changing every few years when it has a problem. By this time, they could have fixed the 6.0 rather than changing to the 6.4...in fact, they could have fixed the 6.4 by now, rather than coming out with the 6.7.
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IMHO, Ford needs to build an engine and then stick with it rather than changing every few years when it has a problem. By this time, they could have fixed the 6.0 rather than changing to the 6.4...in fact, they could have fixed the 6.4 by now, rather than coming out with the 6.7.
But, and you apparently failed to take this into account, but, the 6.0L IH motor is a disaster. By the time they were close to fixing it, the government made it a moot point with emission regulations. Same for the 6.4L. The 6.7L is the only Ford diesel offered ever that can claim 2010 emission compliant. And they have to do that by injecting Urea during the regen cycle.

On to the OP's question. My diesel fuel economy towing is almost identical with my 2004 D/A and now my 2007 Cummins 6.7L. That is as low as 8.5 and as high as 11.5 towing MPG. Empty, I once upon a time saw almost 20MPG with the Duramax. And usually I see in daily driving 14-15 with my Cummins.
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[QUOTE=450Donn;831808]But, and you apparently failed to take this into account, but, the 6.0L IH motor is a disaster. By the time they were close to fixing it, the government made it a moot point with emission regulations. Same for the 6.4L. The 6.7L is the only Ford diesel offered ever that can claim 2010 emission compliant. And they have to do that by injecting Urea during the regen cycle.

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So they are disasters...fix 'em. They went from the 6.0 to the 6.4, and another disaster. Every three/four years they reinvent the wheel...costs a fortune, takes forever, and still doesn't work...fix the old one. From what I've read on another forum...the 6.7 is having it's problems, too.
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my truck currently has another 12,000miles left before the extended warranty runs out. My truck has had two oil coolers and egr cooler replaced. The problem with the 6.0 engine is the oil cooler, the oil cooler is cooled by the coolant, and the coolant passages are too narrow, coolant flow gets restricted. from the oil cooler, coolant flows to the egr cooler, when less coolant flows to the egr cooler, the exhaust gas boils the coolant, cracks the egr cooler, and coolant goes into the engiens intake, then blows head gaskets. that is the typical failure pattern of the 6.0l.
so either i get another truck 12,000miles from now, or i install a Bullet Proof Diesel oil cooler, there oil cooler is a air cooled heat exchanger, with a lifetime warranty, cost 2k, plus another 1k to install. to date Bullet Proof Diesel has had Zero oil cooler failures.

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But, and you apparently failed to take this into account, but, the 6.0L IH motor is a disaster. By the time they were close to fixing it, the government made it a moot point with emission regulations. Same for the 6.4L. The 6.7L is the only Ford diesel offered ever that can claim 2010 emission compliant. And they have to do that by injecting Urea during the regen cycle.

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So they are disasters...fix 'em. They went from the 6.0 to the 6.4, and another disaster. Every three/four years they reinvent the wheel...costs a fortune, takes forever, and still doesn't work...fix the old one. From what I've read on another forum...the 6.7 is having it's problems, too.
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Again, you don't get the point. International built motors for Ford until they could design and build their in house 6.7L None of the previous generation motors met or were capable of meeting the 2010 emission regulations without serious rework. Apparently IH or Ford were unwilling to spend the money for that on a bad motor design. Sometimes the best fix is to scrap everything you have had and start with a clean sheet of paper. So far from my reading Ford has a winner with this motor. Lots of HP/torque and reasonable fuel economy.
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Again, you don't get the point. International built motors for Ford until they could design and build their in house 6.7L None of the previous generation motors met or were capable of meeting the 2010 emission regulations without serious rework. Apparently IH or Ford were unwilling to spend the money for that on a bad motor design. Sometimes the best fix is to scrap everything you have had and start with a clean sheet of paper. So far from my reading Ford has a winner with this motor. Lots of HP/torque and reasonable fuel economy.
I'm with you 450Donn, I get the point just fine. How many times are they going to scrap it and start over before they get it right? Ford is on engine number four in 10 years. Ford is not doing something right, why do they keep having emission problems...nobody else does, the Duramax and Cummins keep rocking right along. Seems they should have dumped IH long ago and need to hire some engineers that are capable of making an engine that will meet the emission requirements and do what they should do.

We must be reading different forums...I seeing problems with the 6.7 where I'm reading.
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I think Ford does not understand the definition of INSANITY: Insanity means to replace the same parts over and over and expect a different result, this is all they ever did with the 6.0 engine.

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I'm with you 450Donn, I get the point just fine. How many times are they going to scrap it and start over before they get it right? Ford is on engine number four in 10 years. Ford is not doing something right, why do they keep having emission problems...nobody else does, the Duramax and Cummins keep rocking right along. Seems they should have dumped IH long ago and need to hire some engineers that are capable of making an engine that will meet the emission requirements and do what they should do.

We must be reading different forums...I seeing problems with the 6.7 where I'm reading.
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