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Old 07-20-2019, 09:51 AM   #1
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Towing capabilities of 3/4 vs. 1 ton

Just purchased a 39í fifth wheel RV. 1,275 lb empty, max 1,675 lb. Trying to understand trailer lifeís booklet on tow ratings. Fords 250 and Chevy/GMC 2500 show tow ratings at 1,400 - 1500 lbs.
Ram 2500 is 1700 lbs. Can I get by with 3/4 ton? Should I only consider 1 ton pickup?
Any advice appreciated, thank you.
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Just purchased a 39í fifth wheel RV. 1,275 lb empty, max 1,675 lb. Trying to understand trailer lifeís booklet on tow ratings. Fords 250 and Chevy/GMC 2500 show tow ratings at 1,400 - 1500 lbs.
Ram 2500 is 1700 lbs. Can I get by with 3/4 ton? Should I only consider 1 ton pickup?
Any advice appreciated, thank you.
Im confused, my 1500 has a tow rating of 9700#....
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Old 07-20-2019, 10:09 AM   #3
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Im confused, my 1500 has a tow rating of 9700#....
I'm thinking there must be a missing zero on the end.
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Think the OP has a zero missing from the tow stats.

39’ fifth wheel needs a newer diesel 1 ton truck for sure. That’s a big box. Trucks are more than the tow rating. The 1 ton’s are usually heavier and so some times the GCVW is confusing as you need to deduct the difference in the weight of the trucks to understand max tow difference between the two. A 1 ton is usually more stable and able to control the load better in adverse road conditions.

I have currently own a 1/2 ton (f150)rated to tow 9000#. The truck is too light. It can’t control a big (tall) load that well. I will not tow more than 5000# in the wind, long distance or on mountain roads.
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So much more missing there then a "0"

Many many more numbers needed from both the truck and trailer.
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Think the OP has a zero missing from the tow stats.

39í fifth wheel needs a newer diesel 1 ton truck for sure. Thatís a big box. Trucks are more than the tow rating. The 1 tonís are usually heavier and so some times the GCVW is confusing as you need to deduct the difference in the weight of the trucks to understand max tow difference between the two. A 1 ton is usually more stable and able to control the load better in adverse road conditions.

I have currently own a 1/2 ton (f150)rated to tow 9000#. The truck is too light. It canít control a big (tall) load that well. I will not tow more than 5000# in the wind, long distance or on mountain roads.


Yes, your correct. I meant 14,000 not 1,400 and so on with the rest of the numbers. Iím lacking a 0 in all my numbers. Thank you.
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For 39' you need to be thinking only 1 ton and think about a dually truck to carry more of the 5th wheel pin weight.

In a nut shell these are rough estimates:

3/4 ton trucks can carry 2,600 - 3,000lbs
1 ton trucks can carry 3,000 - 4,000lbs
Dually trucks can carry 4,000 - 5,500lbs

These are the cargo capacity estimates which are much more important than towing estimates. Towing estimates are for other kind of trailers and not camping trailers like a boat or flatbed.

The new redesigned GM trucks are just now hitting the dealer lots. GM really beefed up these trucks. The redesigned Rams in few months and redesigned Fords at the end of this year.
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Just purchased a 39í fifth wheel RV. 1,275 lb empty, max 1,675 lb. Trying to understand trailer lifeís booklet on tow ratings. Fords 250 and Chevy/GMC 2500 show tow ratings at 1,400 - 1500 lbs.
Ram 2500 is 1700 lbs. Can I get by with 3/4 ton? Should I only consider 1 ton pickup?
Any advice appreciated, thank you.


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Keep in mind tow ratings are for all types of 5th wheel/GN trailers...and not just a rv trailer with fixed hitch weights.
Example...I use a 2500 Dodge/Cummins pulling a 16000 gvwr GN triaxle stock trailer. I can load the trailer with light stuff in the front and heavy animals over the trailers axles . That way I can keep under the trucks 6000 rear axle capacity.
However no way could a 2500 safely/legally carry the hitch load from a 16000 lb rv trailer.
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Can someone show me where gawr Has any legal basis ? So far its only been registration and tire rating.
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Can someone show me where gawr Has any legal basis ? So far its only been registration and tire rating.
GAWR is something you should pay attention to. It isn't a legal matter; it's a kill yourself and a dozen other people in the process matter. Tire ratings are the same. Not a legal issue, but a safety issue. GVWR is the just for registration purposes.
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Sorry but tire ratings are a legal issue and you can be cited for going over them. Gvwr has no meaning for registration in states where you declare weight.
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Can someone show me where gawr Has any legal basis ? So far its only been registration and tire rating.

https://www.personalinjuryclaimsblaw...ity-for-rvers/


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I was on jury duty in a liability suit where we had to assign degree of fault in an accident. A driver hit the last 6" of a tractor trailer that turned in front of him. He did not apply any brakes per his testimony. The driver that hit the last 6" of the trailer was sueing the semi truck driver and his company for 1 million dollars.

In the jury room you can not believe the way some people think...me included.

The jury eventually assigned fault 90% to 10% with the semi truck driver getting only 10% of the fault. That 10% equaled 100k that the company of the semi truck driver had to pay.

Do not give a Plantiff's lawyer any ammo against you. It is difficult enough for a weekend camper to tow the camper, it would be extra bad to be overloaded and involved in an injury accident.
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