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12-10-2015, 03:38 PM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Originally Posted by Gordon Dewald
I vote for a Peterbilt.
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I like Gordons way of thinking..........35k - 40k
Here is my choice for you to buy........
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12-10-2015, 03:50 PM
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I will volunteer to drive it for you.
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12-10-2015, 04:42 PM
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Unless you are commercial why would you need a commercial license? Yes some states you need a Class A or B for being over 26k. You need that for a ldt if over 26k
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12-10-2015, 05:15 PM
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Depending on your resident state on whether you need a full CDL, an exempt CDL (Texas) or no CDL (South Dakota).
You are pushing the limits for an RV which is 65' in most states.
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12-10-2015, 05:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale & Mark Bruss
Depending on your resident state on whether you need a full CDL, an exempt CDL (Texas) or no CDL (South Dakota).
You are pushing the limits for an RV which is 65' in most states.
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Most states your standard license is only good for 26,001 commercial or not.
The length only matters to the state it's registered in. If, theoretically speaking NC allows 65ft combo then I ca t get a ticket for it in Arkansas...same with bumper heights, tires outside fenders, handlebar heights etc.
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12-10-2015, 06:00 PM
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As far as towing such a beast a f-650 may do it definantely f-750, Freightliner m series etc. You don't need a Peterbuilt or class 8 truck (actually Peterbuilt makes a medium duty truck) a medium duty truck will do ya fine. The ratings posted for say Ford F-750 spec GVWR...Not GCVWR. And a 750 is rated for 37k# on the chassis...one must call for for the actual towing capacity.
But in the same breath a single axel Freightliner FL120 modified for rv use can be had for 20K all day long. A buddy of mine just picked one up with 350k on the odo and a 50 series Detroit for $9ķ
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12-10-2015, 06:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Card
Most states your standard license is only good for 26,001 commercial or not.
The length only matters to the state it's registered in. If, theoretically speaking NC allows 65ft combo then I ca t get a ticket for it in Arkansas...same with bumper heights, tires outside fenders, handlebar heights etc.
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Sorry but length is a function of the State that own the highway, not the registration state.
In South Dakota, any vehicle not in the use of commercial activity is covered by a Class C license, and that is good in the 50 states plus DC.
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12-10-2015, 06:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dale & Mark Bruss
Sorry but length is a function of the State that own the highway, not the registration state.
In South Dakota, any vehicle not in the use of commercial activity is covered by a Class C license, and that is good in the 50 states plus DC.
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Your right...obviously on the weight deal...I don't know what I was exactly thinking.
The length thing I just looked up. Kinda stupid if you ask me. One stae is 80ft combined and the next is 50ft. In NC the max trailer length is 35ft....you know how many 40ft work and plays there are in my area. One would think if it's a real problem when the dmv registers a 41ft work and play a red flag would pop up???
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12-10-2015, 06:49 PM
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State laws lag reality quite a bit. RVIA has to lobby each state to get laws changed and in most states, RVs are an important enough voter base to be concerned about having up to date codes.
Now how often do the State Patrols stop and check lengths as aa general policy, seldom. It matters what happens if you do get stopped and checked.
Transiting thru a state would mean you would stay on the National Network (Interstates and US Highways) and virtually every state has agreed to 65' for RV combinations even if the state code is shorter.
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12-10-2015, 06:49 PM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Length varies from state to state and also from equipment to equipment. For example, in Texas, max length for a pickup-trailer or truck-trailer combination is 65'. However, for a TRACTOR - trailer, the max length for a single trailer is 59', or 29' for multiple trailers. By definition, a tractor has to have a 5th wheel hitch and cannot be a bumper pull, like a Class 8 motorhome. There is no length limit on the tractor itself, therefore there is no max length on a tractor-trailer combination. There are many Toterhomes that qualify as tractors pulling 59' trailers, that easily surpass 80'. Many of these are "Recreational Vehicles". You will find them at just about any motorsports event.
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12-10-2015, 08:21 PM
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12-10-2015, 08:24 PM
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A 52' RV will need a over length permit in many states . Do your homework on vehicle combination length and single vehicle lengths in the state or provinces you will travel through.
My state has a 40' max length for a RV trailer and a 65' combined length....but I doubt its enforced unless the combo is handling bad enough to draw a LEO attention.
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12-10-2015, 08:26 PM
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I searched that company.
In their specs for their trailers they don't list weights. However, they list the 54' as only having three 6000lb axles.
If i was looking at one I'd really need to question them about weights and axle ratings.
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12-10-2015, 09:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drittal
I searched that company.
In their specs for their trailers they don't list weights. However, they list the 54' as only having three 6000lb axles.
If i was looking at one I'd really need to question them about weights and axle ratings.
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I was just about to mention that. That means a pin weight of over around 18k lbs when loaded. Yeah, no pickup there. Wonder why they didn't spread the wieghyt around more and space the axles out. Also, should have gone with 9k axles.
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