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Old 12-10-2015, 10:11 PM   #29
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Looks like a 2016 F750 Tractor (shown in picture) is what you need. 37k GVWC, and 80k gcwr with 44k Max towing with the 6.7L Diesel. Plus 2 year unlimited mile bumper to bumper and 5 year 250,000 engine warranty.

Should be more than enough, especially considering it comes in a Crew Cab configuration.
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Old 12-10-2015, 10:48 PM   #30
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Depending on your resident state on whether you need a full CDL, an exempt CDL (Texas) or no CDL (South Dakota).
I had to get a Class A-non commercial in CA because my 5ver exceeded 15000 lbs. It included a written, pre-test inspection of the
RV and TV, and driving test.
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Old 12-10-2015, 11:38 PM   #31
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OK, so these are the people you need to talk to.
Sportdeck | Renegade RV
These are very well made and specifically designed for the RV world. Very commonly used by the racing community due to their towing capacity. They will custom build different length tractors. You may want to contact your local dealer and see what they have used. They may have the configuration you want. You should also look at their 5th wheels as well, as they are very well built. You step inside one, and you will find they are very different from any of the more common production built coaches.
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Old 12-11-2015, 07:15 AM   #32
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Well, I guess before we just start posting trucks, what is your budget? I'm assuming you are in the $200k range on a Fifth Wheel, that you are probably in the $100-120k range for a tractor.
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Haha!! Now that is one big truck. My friend and I was joking last night about running errands in a big truck. That is a pretty serious 'grocery getter'. LOL

I did look at those (Ford -the orange one) last night. The price is not that much different between the freightliners, if I'm remembering clearly. The freightliner's have a 500,000 mile warranty. But DH said the ford/ ram commercial lines may be less hoops to jump through for financing, since we are not a business. IDK... I'm a little uneducated when it comes to all this

Yep I guess I should've thrown a budget out there. We have a combined budget of 180,000. The custom RV we are looking at now, is running about 70k. And I did see a new international medium duty for 61k. So right now, that's where we are at. However, I do not want to get something that is just going to end up causing us grief in the long run. We work on the road, and put on about 70,000 miles a year. I need something that is going to hold up to that.
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Yep I guess I should've thrown a budget out there. We have a combined budget of 180,000. The custom RV we are looking at now, is running about 70k. And I did see a new international medium duty for 61k. So right now, that's where we are at. However, I do not want to get something that is just going to end up causing us grief in the long run. We work on the road, and put on about 70,000 miles a year. I need something that is going to hold up to that.
So before taxes you are looking around $100k I take it (wow, I was close)

Might want to look at the pre owned market. You can get more for less. Find something with around 500hp and 1200lbs of torque.

Otherwise, I would suggest the F750 if you looking for something new.

Update: check out this link
http://www.lonestartruckgroup.com/Sa...Inventory.aspx

Look at stock number FDGR6866
2015 Freightliner Crew Cab with Cummins ISL Diesel for $95k with under 1000miles on it.
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A modified Class 8 tractor (500HP, 1500 ft/lbs torque) is good for about one million miles before an inframe overhaul on the engine. A three year old Class 8 comes off lease usually around 500,000 miles so there is a lot of life remaining. Depending on levels of customization, you can budget in the $40K-$70K. You can spend more for more customization like carrying a Smart Car bed.

The integrated sleepers provide for more storage or people space.
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Still want to know how this 35-40k trailer can do it with only 3 6k axles.

Is half the weight going to be on the pin???
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There are 10K axles.
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Still want to know how this 35-40k trailer can do it with only 3 6k axles.

Is half the weight going to be on the pin???



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There are 10K axles.
That's not what their website lists....see the grid at the bottom...3x6,000lb:
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I would expect to see dual tires on the trailer axles ala' Newmar's big 5ers from the past, for that much weight(?)

But...those sure are some beautiful RV's
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That's not what their website lists....see the grid at the bottom...3x6,000lb:
Custom Built Fifth Wheels | North American RV
I brought up the same concern. Interestly though, they don't actually list the weight of the rig. I know the OP stated it was 30k unloaded, but it might be far less considering the Axle ratings. I'm guessing it might be around 20k but I could be wrong.
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I brought up the same concern. Interestly though, they don't actually list the weight of the rig. I know the OP stated it was 30k unloaded, but it might be far less considering the Axle ratings. I'm guessing it might be around 20k but I could be wrong.
You are right...no UVW listed.
And, the whole theme of this builder seems to be custom built units, so a weight would be purely speculation.

And, had to dig around to find their location...they are in Elkhart! That area seems to be ground zero for North American RV's
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Hate to say it, but it looks like they make pretty low end cheaper rigs (especially for the size). Check out their travel trailer lineup. Pretty sure the materials are going to be the same for the most part. plus, underrated axles, wood construction, pretty horrendous color options (especially cabinets), unappealing exterior (will make it a nightmare to sell). Who knows what else they skimp out on, just so they can claim "Custom Built".

I would suggest the OP look at more mainstream high end brands that might be slightly shorter but built and equipped better. Like a highend Mobile Suite 39' (MSRP for $159k, but sells for around $114l) or a Mobile Suite 44' (MSRP for around $180k but sells for around $130k). Both have dual sinks in master bath. Plus 1/2 bath and a really nice interior layout. They also have bunkhouse versions.

Basically if you spent around $120k for a high end Fiver, you could then spend $60 for a nice Dually. You would have a really good setup that would probably come with a better warranty, better built, more equipped, and serviceable in more areas of the country. That's my suggestion.

In the end, you would have a better overal RV experience, less mass to move around, use less fuel, lower insurance, lower maintenance, easier to take the pickup around town disconnected (or connected), more service options, and a truck that will cost significantly less.

Just my .02
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Where did the original idea of 35-40k come from--an actual spec sheet? No way with 3x6k axles that works. And 9k axles I believe will be dual wheels each side, like the old Newmars.
If IronCobra is correct, the construction would be more like Luxury by Design, or Monte Carlo trailers--lots of room, but not much quality.
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