Go Back   iRV2 Forums > TRAVEL TRAILER, 5th WHEEL & TRUCK CAMPER FORUMS > Trailer Towing and Tow Vehicles Discussion
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-27-2012, 06:59 PM   #1
Junior Member
 
wsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Sebring,Fl.
Posts: 26
towing weight question

When considering what you weight can tow with a certain TV, it seems as though the manufacture would have to give worse case senerio, like towing over the rocky mountains, I live in central Florida (FLATLAND ONLY) can I get by with a little over the tow vehicle's max? We only go within 100 miles from home, no turnpikes or I-95 type roads. I have a dodge ram 1500, reese WD hitch with sway control.
__________________

__________________
wsmith is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 02-27-2012, 07:47 PM   #2
Moderator Emeritus
 
SmokeyWren's Avatar


 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Midland County, Texas
Posts: 3,326
Lots of folks "get by" with towing over one or more of the tow vehicle's weight ratings.

I wouldn't worry much about the tow vehicle's GCWR. That just tells you the max weight you can tow under extreme conditions (such climbing a Rocky Mountain pass) without breaking something or burning up something such as a tranny or differential.

But the GVWR is a different matter. That tells you the max weight that can be on the truck chassis, frame, tires, wheels, and that the brakes are designed to stop. That one is much more serious when it comes to safety on the road. Someone exceeding the GCWR will probably be the slowpoke in the right lane holding back traffic. But someone exceeding the GVWR is looking for a place to have an accident and hurt or kill someone.

If you don't exceed the GVWR of the tow vehicle, then you probably won't exceed any of the other weight ratings, except maybe GCWR of some low-powered trucks.

Hitch rating is another area you want to comply with the weight ratings. A typical TT hitch has a receiver, ball mount (drawbar or shank), ball, and coupler. All of those parts of the hitch have their own weight ratings. Don't exceed any of those.
__________________

__________________
Grumpy ole man with over 50 years towing experience. Now my heaviest trailer is a 7,000-pound enclosed cargo trailer, RV is a 5,600 pound Skyline Nomad Joey 196S, and my tow vehicle is a 2012 F-150 3.5L EcoBoost SuperCrew.
SmokeyWren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2012, 08:01 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Mr_D's Avatar
 
Solo Rvers Club
iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 28,423
Usually it's the brakes that aren't up to the task.
__________________
2009 45' Magna 630 w/Cummins ISX 650 HP/1950 Lbs Ft
Charter Good Sam Lifetime Member, FMCA, SKP
RV'ing since 1957, NRA Benefactor Life, towing '14 CR-V
Mr_D is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2012, 08:05 PM   #4
Moderator Emeritus
 
TXiceman's Avatar


 
Vintage RV Owners Club
Texas Boomers Club
Oklahoma Boomers Club
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Full Time, TX Home Base
Posts: 17,150
Blog Entries: 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_D View Post
Usually it's the brakes that aren't up to the task.
The trailer has brakes to help with the trailer. The truck should have brakes sufficient to stop the truck at full GVWR.

Ken
__________________
Amateur Radio Operator (KE5DFR)|Full-Time! - 2012 6.7L Ford Crew Cab Dually -2013 HitchHiker Champagne 38RLRSB - Travel with one Standard Schnauzer and one small Timneh African Gray Parrot
TXiceman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-29-2012, 01:42 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Cat320's Avatar
 
Fleetwood Owners Club
American Coach Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 4,749
Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyWren View Post
I wouldn't worry much about the tow vehicle's GCWR. That just tells you the max weight you can tow under extreme conditions (such climbing a Rocky Mountain pass) without breaking something or burning up something such as a tranny or differential.
Not sure where this information came from, because the correct definition for 5th wheel tow capacity is the truck's GCWR minus the weight of the truck when loaded and ready to tow (including pin weight and everything in the truck).
__________________
2014 American Eagle 45T
DD 500
Pulling a Honda CRV
Cat320 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2012, 09:43 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
wandering1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NC
Posts: 450
Send a message via ICQ to wandering1
1/2 tons are highly over rated for towing capacity. Get at least a 3/4 ton and be safe.
__________________
Wandering1
wandering1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2012, 09:05 PM   #7
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,078
You have two weights of concern. First and foremost safety wise is the trucks axle/tire ratings. Do not exceed the 1500 trucks RAWR/P tire capacities which your 1500 Dodge may be approx 3900 RAWR. IMO you will be fine in that area unless you have a inbed aux fuel tank or a heavy ATV in the bed or heavy "stuff" in the bed.

Your other weight of concern is the trucks tow rating. I won't guess at a tow rating as you may have a Hemi or the tiny 4.7 gasser. If your trailer is a couple of hundred over the trucks tow rating its more of a performance/trucks reliability issue especially with the auto tranny.

Brake performance is a function of the GAWR. Example if your trailer has two 3500 lb axles = 7k braking. The 1500 Dodge has a 3700 FAWR/3900 RAWR = 7600 lb braking performance.

Looking at your profile you indicate a 26' TT. You should be fine with the Hemi as its rated up to 10k. The 4.7 V8 has up to a 7000 lb tow rating however its gonna' struggle in the hills at that weight.
The older 5.9 gasser 1500 Dodge will work also.
__________________
'03 Dodge 2500 Cummins HO 3.73 NV5600 Jacobs
'98 3500 DRW 454 4x4 4.10 crew cab
'97 Park Avanue RK 28' 2 slides
JIMNLIN is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2012, 09:11 PM   #8
Moderator Emeritus
 
RustyJC's Avatar


 
Texas Boomers Club
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Cypress, Texas USA
Posts: 8,854
Quote:
Originally Posted by JIMNLIN View Post
You have two weights of concern.
As far as Dodge is concerned (no pun intended), you have four weights of concern:

GCWR
GVWR
Front axle GAWR
Rear axle GAWR

Dodge says none of these are to be exceeded when towing.

Rusty
__________________

__________________
2016 Ram Longhorn 3500 Dually 4x4 CCLB, 385/900 Cummins, Aisin AS69RC, 4.10
2014.5 DRV Mobile Suites 38RSSA #6972
Come join us on a TEXAS BOOMERS rally!
RustyJC is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
towing, weight



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Flat towing Honda Fit Hen Toads and Motorhome Related Towing 35 07-18-2012 03:24 PM
Motor home framework question awcshy iRV2.com General Discussion 22 02-28-2012 07:46 PM
Dreamer question matthah1 Excel Owner's Forum 17 02-28-2012 10:57 AM
Trailer or Dinghy towing JohnGillott Toads and Motorhome Related Towing 13 02-27-2012 06:03 PM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.