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Old 09-28-2013, 09:12 PM   #1
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Towing with 2500HD

I am getting a Carriage Cameo 36FWS and the tongue weight is pretty heavy, closing in on the max tongue weight on the truck, should i stick with my 2500HD, or pick up a dually from Chevrolet?
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Old 09-28-2013, 09:25 PM   #2
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Figure your pin weight at approximately 20% of the trailer GVWR.

Weigh your truck, loaded for a trip, fully fueled, passengers, cargo and 5th wheel hitch.

GVWR - loaded truck = MAX pin for the trailer

If 20% GVWR is under the Max Pin for the trail, your truck will be OK.

More than likely, you will need a DRW truck to handle the pin weight.

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It's an 2011 36FWS With full body paint and the full wall slide, yours?
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Old 09-28-2013, 11:11 PM   #4
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Check my signature. I would not tow it with less than my 1 ton dually.

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Old 09-29-2013, 08:55 AM   #5
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Dry weight of 12,000+? I'd be scared to tow that with a 3/4 ton truck!
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A 36FWS will have a GVWR of something over 16,000# and a loaded pin weight of something around 3200#. It should have 7000# axles with G rated tires as a minimum.

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What she looks like on the 2500

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You might want to make a trip to the scales with the truck fully fueled and loaded with passengers and cargo just as it will be when you're traveling and with the trailer hitched up. Pay special attention to your actual weights on your truck axles. I suspect you're over your truck's GVWR and perhaps even your rear axle GAWR as shown on the sticker in the driver's door jamb.

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I'm actually more than likely getting a silverado 3500 dually this week due to the truck being over loaded and sagging. It would sink down a good 8 inches
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That's a very wise decision!

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Yeah, that's a little bit too much trailer for a SRW truck... Wow.
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I have two friends who have both put thousands of miles towing 13,000 to 14,000 lb 5th-wheels using 3/4 ton diesel powered pickups with no problems at all. The DRW trucks get away with lower load range tires as there are 4 taking the place of 2.

Not at all difficult to find tires for 17 and 18 inch rims that provide 3750@80 PSI of load capacity of 7500 lbs. for the pair at the rear axle. Subtract the weight of the empty truck measured at a local scale and you will have the load that the tires can handle.

People mistakenly think that the load limit of the rear axle is based on the axle and its wheel bearings and it is not true with trucks. The limit is based on the weakest link when the truck left the factory and with the 3/4 ton trucks it is the tires and the rear leaf sprigs. Tires can be changed and helper springs can be added.

With my 2500HD the trailer weight would need to be over 16,000 lbs. to exceed the capacity of the rear axle, bearings, rims, tires, and springs, based on the modifications I have made.

If when traveling down the highways you check the number of 5th-wheel travel trailers being pulled by a SRW or DRW trailer you will find that more than 80% of the time they are being towed by a SRW truck.

What is very helpul in terms of ride comfort is a shock absorbing kingpin like the ones from TrailAir. Regardless fo the truck they help dampen the movement of the trailer and improve ride comfort for the driver and any passengers.
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People mistakenly think that the load limit of the rear axle is based on the axle and its wheel bearings and it is not true with trucks. The limit is based on the weakest link when the truck left the factory and with the 3/4 ton trucks it is the tires and the rear leaf sprigs. Tires can be changed and helper springs can be added.

With my 2500HD the trailer weight would need to be over 16,000 lbs. to exceed the capacity of the rear axle, bearings, rims, tires, and springs, based on the modifications I have made.
Just curious - did you use a Sharpie to change the GVWR and rear axle GAWR on your driver's door sticker?

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