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Old 09-30-2016, 11:15 AM   #1
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Truck ideas? 5000lb pin, 25000lb trailer, cc lb 4x4, with pickup bed?

Does such a truck exist? It looks like the F550, gmc, chev, dodge 5500's are what are in that range. What are some of you pulling with? Are there any suggestions for used/less expensive and reliable options out there?
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That's at the upper end of what a properly-equipped new F350 or Ram 3500 could handle, so there is that option.

A lot of people pulling trailers that heavy go the used HDT route.
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IMO a used MDT or HDT would be a realistic consideration.
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Whats an MDT or HDT? Like an International truck with a 5th wheel bed?

I still want a pickup bed and 4x4
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Whats an MDT or HDT? Like an International truck with a 5th wheel bed?

I still want a pickup bed and 4x4
Yes, Medium Duty Truck, Heavy Duty Truck, Volvo's are very popular. A lightly used conversion (single axle, tow bed) might be very cost effective compared to a brand new Ram 3500HD CTD, 4x4, CC, DRW, fully equipped.
As others have mentioned 25K is in the near envelope of the light duty P/U's. Is that the actual scale weight or a brochure estimate?

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Truck ideas? 5000lb pin, 25000lb trailer, cc lb 4x4, with pickup bed?

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Whats an MDT or HDT? Like an International truck with a 5th wheel bed?



I still want a pickup bed and 4x4

Have a look at the 2017 F-350

http://www.ford.com/trucks/super duty/specifications/towing
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Old 09-30-2016, 01:13 PM   #7
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I am looking around at 5th wheel trailers as a change of residence. The lower grade and weight 5th wheels Ive seen thus far arent going to work to live in. The higher end units look like what I need to do what I am after. The hard part is some gvwr's Ive seen are way up there - 24,000 or so with dry weights in the 20-21,000 range. My truck now is a cc lb srw F350, 2011 with the 6.7. I am curious to see how realistic it is to cover my towing bases as well as "pickup truck duty". Id rather have more capacity than max it out also. Just seeing what it would take, thats all.
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Old 09-30-2016, 02:39 PM   #8
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you have hit the WALL... pickup's are out.. so is 4x4.

or a lighter 5th wheel.

my opinion... others Do Very.. best of luck in this issue
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. but a F 550 is kinda a pickup.


I have seen F 550 dually with pickup bed pulling 5th wheel Toy Haulers. the 100k types.
.no idea if 4x4.
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You can get an international, freightliner etc in 4x4 . You would need to find someone to manufacture a pickup box for it. It would be high dollar though
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F450

According to Ford, fifth-wheel towing for the F-450 is best-in-class at 27,500 pounds.

yes = 4x4
Yes = pickup bed
yes = crew cab long bed
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According to Ford, fifth-wheel towing for the F-450 is best-in-class at 27,500 pounds.

yes = 4x4
Yes = pickup bed
yes = crew cab long bed
The Ford hype (along with the hype from all other vehicle manufacturers) is misleading at best. The F-450 pickup with all the correct options for max towing weight can PULL a 25,000 pound 5er, but it will be overloaded over the payload capacity of the pickup if it has any weight in the pickup more than a skinny driver.

The OP plans to be a full-timer, so he will haul a lot more in the truck than a skinny driver.

Best plan is to special order a new F-550 chassis cab exactly they way you want it for maximum GVWR and GCWR, then have the Ford dealer "ship thru" an upfitter to add the bed and 5er hitch. Several different upfitters will add a pickup bed to an F-550. Ship-thru means you will not have to pay any extra for the new truck to be shipped from the Ford assembly plant then thru the upfitter for additional work, then finally to the Ford dealer for delivery to you.

Any Class 5 chassis cab truck can be modified by having an upfitter add a pickup bed, so if you don't want a Ford, then consider a Peterbilt ot KW or GMC or Freightliner or whatever. Class 5 (Ford F-550 or GM 5500) is probably the minimum requirement for dragging a 25k trailer without being overloaded. The F-550 looks just like an F-350. But if you want more, then move up to a class 6 or class 7 MDT (medium duty truck) which will have a single rear axle. If you want to be the envy of the other full-timers, start with a medium-duty Peterbilt or KW, then have an upfitter add the pickup bed and 5er hitch.



A well-known upfitter is Cowboy Cadillac, that put together the mini Peterbilt pickup shown avove. More info on them at Cowboy Cadillac.
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Will this truck be dedicated to towing your 5th wheel or also be your daily driver?
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