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Old 09-30-2015, 03:35 PM   #1
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True towing capacity

I have a 2014 ram 1500 v8 8 speed 4x2 crew cab 5'7'' box, about to buy a 29' travel trailer. I see an array of different info about my towing capacity and different weights of the camper. The dealer say it's 11k and change but every other dealership website says its 7500...and ram trucks.com says I can pull 12000 if it's a travel trailer. Just wondering if I'm safe buying this camper. Between brakes and tranny don't want to be stupid and buy too big. Thanks!
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Old 09-30-2015, 04:14 PM   #2
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Go here: http://www.rambodybuilder.com/2014/d...ammlup1500.pdf to find your payload and rear axle GAWR per transmission & axle ratio. That's important. Do you know the dry weight of the TT you hope to buy? (Not sure what the 11,000 + change and the 7500 specifically refer to)
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Old 09-30-2015, 04:27 PM   #3
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There are a number of "weights" the manufacturer posts. Some are not realistic but . . . . . there are a few that will keep you in good stead.

Towing capacity (not). This is the capacity the truck could tow if it was a bare bones truck with little else. It would be a single cab, no passengers and the driver would be a jockey or 6 yr old.

GCWR - the maximum weight the truck with all of the options, supplies, full tank, passengers, tool box, bicycles, firewood etc plus a fully loaded trailer and hitch.

GVWR - the maximum weight the truck can weigh on its axles. Includes all of the options, supplies, full tank, passengers tool box, etc and the tongue weight of the trailer plus hitch.

GAWR - this is the maximum weight each axle can carry. There will be a front and rear GAWR. You should not exceed either one. The rear one will be the one most affected by the trailer. Many times the sum of the GAWR (front and rear) will be greater than the GVWR.

So long as you are under the GVWR and do not exceed either of the GAWR you will be good.

If you can get a weight of the truck fully loaded and fueled with the stuff and occupants you will be taking on your camping trips you can estimate the size of the trailer.

Take the loaded axle weight and subtract it from the GAWR(rear) listed on the sticker on the door pillar. Subtract an additional 100 lbs for the hitch if you do not have one installed. Take that number and divide it by .15. .15 is the percentage of the tongue weight that will be on the rear axle. That number is the GVWR of the trailer you should be looking at.
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There is towing capacity where the truck will not break. That is the high number. But let's say you buy a 10,000lb TT. You will be looking for a bigger truck after your 1st trip. Even an 7,000lb trailer will have you looking for a bigger truck.

I towed a 5,500 lb. trailer with a 2011 F-150. I really liked that truck. When I towed the trailer it towed 'fine'. Find means it was tolerable. Was it fun...not as fun as w/o the trailer.

With that experience IMHO I cap the max I would tow with a 1/2 ton truck is 6,000 lbs.

With that same truck I would tow a 8,000lb boat...but not a far less aerodynamic TT.
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Just going off 29' and 1500 , I recommend under 25' trailer for 1500 or a 2500 for the 29' trailer. You may tow this combination for years and not have a problem, but in an extreme situation, the 1500 is too light to control a 29' trailer. Cross winds,emergency stops or swerving to avoid something may have the momentum of the trailer overcoming the trucks weight and pushing it around or over. The few more pounds and stiffer suspension and tires of a 2500 makes a big difference!
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The 1500 Ram truck like yours is limited to a small 3900 RAWR. These trucks can have rear axle weight in the 2500 lb range which leave around 1400 lb for a payload. Now subtract all the occupants your going to carry plus a hitch and gear in the truck. Now the truck may have around 1000-1200 lbs left for the trailers hitch weight.

TT's may have 10-12-15 percent hitch weight which means a 10k-11k TT will have too much hitch weight (1300-1600) for that truck without modifying the trucks rear suspension/wheels and tires to carry more weight.

With a 3900 RAWR on a 1500 truck I would look at trailers with a 7k-8k GVWR.
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I'm no authorityon this, but I know 2 guys with Ram1500 shorties with 5.7 hemi and 26 and 28 foot lite trailers. They have plenty of power, but they are terribly tired and physically in pain from corralling the tail wagging the dog all day.
For 25 and longer....up truck
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All you have to do is observe 1/2 trucks towing TT' s on the highways. They travel at 60 to 62 mph in the right hand lane and always have two hands on the wheel trying to control the shock wave from passing semi's.

If I were going to stay local and travel on secondary roads at 45 to 55 mph or stay on secondary roads I would then go with a bigger trailer with a 1/2 ton truck.

But at the speed limit on the interstates with semi's a big trailer and little truck can be a handful.
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True towing capacity

I have a 2012 Ram 1500 quad cab 4x4, 5.7 Hemi, 3.55 rear, 6'4" box, 6 speed tranny.

I tow a Jayco Jay Flight SLX 26 ft. Dry weight is 4500 lbs, about 5000 lbs with propane and water.

My truck tows fine. Lots of power but can feel the weight on little bumps. That's with a good WD hitch. No way would I attempt to go with any heavier or longer of a trailer without moving up to a 2500.

Just giving you my opinion as my truck is. I also upgraded my tires to an LT Goodyear Duratrac E load rated.
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I tow my 26' 5500lbs TT with a 1500 Ram 5.7 8 speed. Used to. I now have a 2500 but I am still a huge advocate of half ton pulling within reason.
The Ram pulled it fine, tons of power, good control BUT I was always severely overloaded and had to modify it to help that. Mine with the 3.92 gears was only rated to 9650lbs. Wind really played hell with that combo too and it was a large gust that almost put us on our roof that forced us to upgrade trucks.
In short- the Ram 1500 is one of the better towing half tons out there but it's not all about what it's rated for. Sometimes a little logic needs to go into it. You're not going to have much fun with that thing on the short wheelbase 1500. Just my .02.

If you head to ramforum, look up audio1nder. He'll tell you EXACTLY what it feels like with his long wind sail.
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Website says GVWR is 9500lbs, hitch weight 840lbs, axel weight 6700lbs. Trailer does have brakes. I live in south Florida so everything is flat and never going to travel more than a 3 hour ride. Thanks guys!
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I would question the hitch weight, the number that you show is the empty hitch weight. Figure 10 to 12% of 9500# to get your hitch weight which would be between 950# and 1140#.
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12.5% of 6700 = 840, so the 6700# may be the unloaded trailer weight - when you put your stuff in the trailer, passengers and gear in the truck and add the ~100# WDH (which you would HAVE been to have) you will be at or over top of what your truck can officially do. Could make for a very long 3-hour ride. Not recommended.

I have a RAM 1500 pulling a 5800# (loaded) TT and (very carefully set up) it works quite well - but I'll be going to a 2500 when I can. FWIW
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