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Old 12-19-2014, 04:46 PM   #15
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Kind of a hard comparison. What "Hemi" was it? What was the transmission and rear axle ratios of the Dodge and what is the Ford now?
Not really hard, he's had both and misses the Ram. Google a 2010 Ram 1500 Hemi and 2014 F150 Eco. Typical numbers for each will come up. He didn't special order either one.

Better yet, go test drive each and have some fun. I've ridden in both and 1/2 tons don't interest me for towing.
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Old 12-20-2014, 08:45 PM   #16
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My son traded a Hemi for an EcoBoost. He misses the power and mileage he got with the 1500 Ram.
I have never had a Hemi or a diesel so I can't compare, but I am happy with a '13 Ecoboost. It doesn't have the payload of the heavier trucks, but I just made sure I got a camper that was within the limits of this one. It doesn't have a lot of engine braking, but the transmission will downshift to try to hold the speed down if the cruise control is engaged.

26 mpg highway unloaded, quiet and comfy



16 mpg towing 3,600# v-nosed enclosed trailer. Yes, I towed it for 4,600 miles to Colorado and back.





12 mpg towing 6,700# camper





Beaucoup of low rpm torque

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The F150's EcoB turbo doesn't help with engine braking. The truck doesn't have much, but it's good enough for what I'm pulling (7500-8000#).

You do have to let it rev way up though. Coming down that pass in Great Smokey Mountains NP or the Dragons Tail, I'm often in first gear at 4000-5000 rpm.

I'm not used to running those high rpms with this engine as its torque peaks around 2500 rpm. But its that or cooking your brakes.
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Thanks for all the replies. While I was dreaming of the better mileage while not towing with an EcoBoost engine, I am convinced that living and working on the West Coast, I will really appreciate having an exhaust brake in the diesel engines available in all of the 250/2500 and larger pickups that are for sale now.
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I will really appreciate having an exhaust brake in the diesel engines available in all of the 250/2500 and larger pickups that are for sale now.
Definitely a diesel advantage. Well, in the big diesels anyway, not in the RAM 1500 EcoDiesel or the other EuroDiesels out there.

I read somewhere that the new Cummins 5L V8 diesel will have a nifty, new rotating valve system for managing its turbo, acting as a waste gate and exhaust brake. If Nissan puts that Cummins in a truck with decent payload and tow capacity, it might just be a winner. Not too big, nor too small.
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Over 12,000 miles of towing my 9500 lb fiver up and down mountains even in Wyoming and I will say that I really appreciate the engine braking of my Ecoboost. I've never had mine drop to first gear in Tow/Haul mode, but when it drops to second going down a mountain, I really feel the difference.
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Over 12,000 miles of towing my 9500 lb fiver up and down mountains even in Wyoming and I will say that I really appreciate the engine braking of my Ecoboost. I've never had mine drop to first gear in Tow/Haul mode, but when it drops to second going down a mountain, I really feel the difference.
Would you mind sharing the loading on your EB (GVW, FAW, RAW, GCVW) towing a 9500# fiver? I am at 97.5% of GVWR and at 98.7% of RAWR with a 6700# TT toy hauler.
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Would you mind sharing the loading on your EB (GVW, FAW, RAW, GCVW) towing a 9500# fiver? I am at 97.5% of GVWR and at 98.7% of RAWR with a 6700# TT toy hauler.
Front GAWR 3750
Rear GAWR 4050
TV GVWR 7650
TV GCWR 17100
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Front 3480
Rear 4560
Gross Combined 15540

I am 510 over on the rear and 390 over on gross truck weight with the Max Tow package and 1848 lb payload. HD Payload was not available when I bought the truck and is still a special order.
I did what Ford did with their HD Payload and added overload springs and HD shocks. I've never had a problem with handling, stopping or going down mountains, just with the weight police.
I am very respectful of the load I am hauling and the HD trucks with big RVs that fly by me at 70-80 mph with 65 mph tires scare the crap out of me.
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