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Old 01-17-2015, 01:34 AM   #1
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TV help? Rock wood Windjammer 35'

Forest River Rockwood Windjammer 35' TT...Base/Dry Unit Weight 7,263; Base a dry Hitch Weight 918; Base Dry Axel Weight 6,345
What type and size TV to SAFELY pull this please?
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Old 01-17-2015, 01:57 PM   #2
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You need to list the trailers gross weight, dry weight is a useless number since it does not include many things the trailer has added before delivery and does not include your belongings either. The real world weight may be as much as 2500 pounds heavier, closer to 10,000 pounds and 1500 pounds of tongue weight, or 2500 pounds of pin weight if it is a 5th wheel trailer.


Either way you need a 3/4 ton truck minimum to safely carry that load although some 1/2 tons can do it if equipped properly. If towing a 5th wheel that size I would suggest a 1 ton vehicle. And a longer wheelbase will be more stable and feel more comfortable.
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Old 01-17-2015, 01:59 PM   #3
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Forest River Rockwood Windjammer 35' TT...Base/Dry Unit Weight 7,263; Base a dry Hitch Weight 918; Base Dry Axel Weight 6,345
What type and size TV to SAFELY pull this please?
Interesting numbers, but almost useless in matching TT to tow vehicle (TV). Begin your calculations with the GVWR of the trailer.

Those numbers are for a Windjammer model 3029W, which has GVWR of 8,850. Assume you will load it up to near the GVWR by the third long camping trip, and tongue weight will
be up to 15% of wet and loaded gross trailer weight.

So you need a TV with enough GVWR to handle the wet and loaded weight of the TV plus up to 1,328 pounds of hitch weight. That sounds like at least a three-quarter ton
pickup. I know of only one half-ton pickup that could tow that trailer without being overloaded, and those are rare indeed. Dealers don't stock them. They are F-150s
with the heavy duty payload package.

So, count on an F-250 or Ram/GM 2500 pickup at least. If a CrewCab pickup doesn't have enough room inside for your crew, then next choice is a full-size GM 3500 van,
preferably with the diesel engine. No, Ford and Ram do not make vans with enough drivetrain to tow that trailer without being overloaded.

The "tow ratings" you may see are misleading. No, you cannot tow a TT that weighs the tow rating without oveloading your TV. The first limiter you'll bump into is the
payload capacity, which is the GVWR of the TV minus the weight of the wet and loaded TV. Next is propably the rear GAWR. And rarely will the GCWR be the limiter. The tow
rating is GCWR minus the weight of the wet and loaded TV.

Most folks underestimate the weight of the wet and loaded TV. You must include a full tank of gas, all the people, pets and stuff that will be in the TV when towing
- tools, bedrug, bed cover or cap, receiver hitch, and the head and shank from your weight-distribiting hitch. Lots of RVers also haul campfire wood, toys such as a
dirt bike(s) or quad(s), and other weight. It all adds up and makes it very easy to overload your TV if you don't plan way head.
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Thank you for that information. Im in the process of purchasing the 3029w. The TV we decided on is the F250 diesel short bed with extended cab. Dealer informed us the weight would be around 10,000 pounds totally weighed down with all the things described.
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Humm...35' 10,000lb. is a heck of a big trailer to be towed with short bed truck. A 35' trailer will catch a lot of wind as it is being towed.

I would look at a 1 ton with the longest wheelbase I could find. Longer the wheelbase the better the TV can control the trailer. A 3/4 ton truck usually weighs approx. 7,500lbs with a GVWR of 10,000lbs. A 1 ton truck will weigh slightly more than the 3/4 ton truck but have a GVWR of 11,500.

With a 10,000lb trailer there might be 2,000 lbs of tongue weight. That only leaves 500lbs. for the hitch, people, bikes, firewood, tools, etc.

I personally think even a 3/4 shortbed truck will be max'ed out if not over it capacity.
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The TV we decided on is the F250 diesel short bed with extended cab. Dealer informed us the weight would be around 10,000 pounds totally weighed down with all the things described.
2015 F-250 SuperCab shorty with diesel engine has GVWR of 10,000 pounds. The wet and loaded truck will gross about 8,000 pounds for a 4x2 or 8,400 for a 4x4. That leaves more than the 1,300 pounds hitch weight your wet and loaded TT will probably have, with about 300 pounds of payload capacity remaining in case you want to add some campfire wood or a mother-in-law to your cargo.

But if you go with the short-wheelbase truck for that much trailer, then be sure you spend the big bucks and hook it up with a ProPride hitch. tuffr2's concerns about a short wheelbase pickup towing a huge TT are legitimate, but you can minimize the problem with the excellent (but expensive) ProPride hitch.
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Forest River Rockwood Windjammer 35' TT...Base/Dry Unit Weight 7,263; Base a dry Hitch Weight 918; Base Dry Axel Weight 6,345
What type and size TV to SAFELY pull this please?
Hi. I pull ours with GMC crew cab 3500 diesel. Our trailer came with "c" loaded tires, suggest you try to get these upgraded to "e"'s
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