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Old 07-19-2016, 01:50 PM   #1
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Uh-OH...I think we have a problem...Helppppp

We just purchased the following and I don't think we have enough truck! I think we have a payload issue?
I am afraid we listened to the sales reps and put too much faith in their abilities to steer us to the proper set up.
Would changing to the 3500 posted in the next post help?
I tried all these weigh calculators and now I'm just frustrated.

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Old 07-19-2016, 01:57 PM   #3
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3500 option will fix the payload issue?
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Old 07-19-2016, 02:01 PM   #4
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If you have not pulled the trigger go with the 3500. The pin weight of that heavy 5er will eat up all your payload in that 2500. you will be overloaded before the wife and kids get in the truck with you.


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Old 07-19-2016, 02:05 PM   #5
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If you have not pulled the trigger go with the 3500. The pin weight of that heavy 5er will eat up all your payload in that 2500. you will be overloaded before the wife and kids get in the truck with you.

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OH, yes, we pulled the trigger! If it's a safety issue and we have to change, we will just have to do it though, right?!
And how do I tell the hubs this....gulp?!
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Old 07-19-2016, 02:19 PM   #6
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Unfortunately, most dealer sales reps know not much of anything except how to sell a vehicle and it is up to the self taught buyer to understand their needs when buying a larger truck. While the truck you bought can technically pull your RV in a straight line and be within the trucks capabilities, once you add passengers, fuel, food, dogs, kids, etc, you are going to be way over the safe operating limits of that truck. The sad part is, unless you can get your dealer to work nice with you, the truck you bought has now been titled, and even though brand new is now considered used and you will take a large hit if you go to trade it in for a 3500. Yes, the engine can pull a house off its foundation, but the truck can only take as much weight as it was designed to do.
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Old 07-19-2016, 02:19 PM   #7
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Yeah, you have the common problem of not enough truck for your trailer.

That trailer has GVWR of 16,700, so you can expect wet and loaded weight of at least 15,000 pounds. I assume it's a fifth-wheel RV trailer, so you can plan on pin weight of about 20% of wet and loaded gross trailer weight, or around 3,000 pounds, and up to 3,300 or so if you load the trailer to the max.

So your available payload of 2,250 ain't gonna hack it.

Even the 4,220 payload of the 3500 SRW will be barely adequate if you plan to haul a toolbox, maybe some campfire wood, and have optional cab steps, bed steps, front Bambi guard, cab full of family, etc. And don't even think about installing an auxiliary fuel tank for cross-country trips - that tank and extra fuel is HEAVY! So I hate to be the one to break the news, but that trailer would probably be happy only with a dually tow vehicle. You can probably "get by" with the 3500 SRW, but you'll need to constantly weigh the rig on a CAT scale to be sure you aren't overloaded over the GVWR (and payload capacity) of the tow vehicle.

BTW, that sounds like a wonderful luxury RV trailer. Now just get "enuff truck" to tow it without overloading the tow vehicle, and you'll be in camper's heaven.
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I think that GVWR of the 2500 is low. I think it's supposed to be around 10,100. But still overloaded regardless
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I think a 3500 DRW with an 8' bed would do it, no worries.
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And how do I tell the hubs this....gulp?!
Say "Honey, I think we need a new, bigger truck". I have doubt you'll encounter much pushback.
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Just remember, the only difference between the 2500 and the 3500 is the springs in the rear. Oh, and the emblem that says 2500. Would you be going to a DRW?
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We just went through the same thing, we had a Ram 2500 HD which 'towed' our Fiver fine, but the pin weight of our 16K rig overloaded the 3/4 ton, even with after market air bags that we added. So DW put her foot down and we now have the truck that's in my signature. She now has more piece of mind. I hate to admit when she's right! When we bought our FW, we simply told the RV sales people to get us a truck that will tow it, and that's what they did.

You need a truck that will tow it, stop it, and handle the pin weight.

Tell your DH you have to correct this situation before it becomes a problem.

Good luck and nice rig, take care and we'll see you down the road.
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You're thinking clearly.. the dry hitch weight is over the payload of the truck by quite a bit. Once you add you, hubs, dogs, gear... it gets worse.
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As Smokey said, You really need a duelly. After all, how you gonna tell the mrs. that she can't bring her baking and canning supplies when there are clearly empty cupboards. Trailers also get heavier with age because we always think of something it would be nice to have on the next trip and those things seldom get removed from permanent residence.
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