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Old 05-04-2015, 01:23 AM   #29
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No. Here's a good explanation of GAWR:
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The axle capacity and the gross axle weight rating (GAWR) are two different things. The rear GAWR considers the frame, tires, springs, shocks, and wheels as well as the rear axle. The rear axle includes all the parts of the "third member", including differential, axle shafts, wheel bearings and other bearings, and other parts of the rear "axle". If you never exceed the rear GAWR, then you'll never exceed the capacity of the rear axle.

The sterling axles used in these trucks is rated to support something like 9k lbs. with that, you will severely overload the tires, wheels, springs etc before overloading the axle itself.
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Old 05-04-2015, 05:17 AM   #30
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F250 Superduty GVWR 10,000lbs Front GAWR 5600lbs, Rear GAWR 6100lbs, GCVW 19,000lbs, actual weight by scale with me in it 7040lbs. actual weight of tire,axle,springs,etc. on one side by scale was 1220lbs., multiplied by 2 for both tires 2440lbs.deducted from factory rear GAWR of 6100lbs. Should give me a estimated available weight for rear axle of 3660lbs. Tongue weight 1850 weighed by scale, trailer weight 10,930lbs. I realize there are always going to be variables , like the trailer GVWR of 13,000lbs but l need to start somewhere to get the initial readings and weights to be smart enough to make the correct decisions not to be that carefree tow guy.The tongue weight of 1850 lbs is within the 3660lbs available.The new curt receiver hitch can handle a weight of 2550lbs tongue weight and 17,000lbs trailer. I realize per Ford the tow weight is still 12,400 and I would not exceed that.
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Your math doesn't lie, your truck will safely tow that trailer with the new class V hitch.
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Who buys an 8400 lbs truck to haul 1600 lbs.
My 1/4 ton Ranger was comfortable with 1/2 cord of hardwood. About 2500 lbs.
That 10,000 lbs rating for a Ford is a joke.
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Who buys an 8400 lbs truck to haul 1600 lbs.
My 1/4 ton Ranger was comfortable with 1/2 cord of hardwood. About 2500 lbs.
That 10,000 lbs rating for a Ford is a joke.

I agree 100% These truck can safely carry way more weight than they are rated for.
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I agree 100% These truck can safely carry way more weight than they are rated for.

???? And the engineer who signed off on this is?
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???? And the engineer who signed off on this is?
Or the LAWYER?
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The last two points are valid ones. You don't plan for your best day, you plan for your worst. That includes the day the idiot in a smart car pulls out in front of you and you have to manage your load.

Although it's written from the perspective of towing a 5th wheel, our take on towing (and how to get accurate numbers) is at MomentumGunner.com : Things To Think About When Towing
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X2, the lawyers have the final say on this not the engineers.
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X2, the lawyers have the final say on this not the engineers.
I would say the engineers set the standards while the lawyers will enforce them and do their best to punish you if you screw up.
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