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Old 04-26-2015, 06:57 AM   #1
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Underweight Ford tow hitch

Hi, I have a 2014 F250, 6.2 L gas engine,3.73 tranny,GVCW 19,000, Truck weigh's 7040 w/me in it, stock hitch carries 1250lbs with weight distribution. The truck tows 12,400lbs. The trailer to be towed is 40' long and weigh's 10,930lbs. The tongue weight is 1850lbs. By sherline scale.The truck can pull it ,but the hitch can't carry it! could I have the stock receiver hitch replaced with a heavier weight receiver carrying hitch?
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Old 04-26-2015, 08:32 AM   #2
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etrailer.com has a range of hitch receivers that can replace yours.
You'll need a Class V, and probably 2.5" opening?
Curt makes one with 2700# WDH TW.
Curt Trailer Hitch for Ford F-250 and F-350 Super Duty 2014 - C15810
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Old 04-26-2015, 11:28 AM   #3
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Most of the Class V/2.5" receivers are derated if you use the 2" adapter. If you get one of the hitches, use a 2.5" draw bar to keep the full rating.
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Old 04-26-2015, 12:11 PM   #4
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... could I have the stock receiver hitch replaced with a heavier weight receiver carrying hitch?
Over 1,800 pounds tongue weight is way too much for an F-250. You're going to be overloaded. But if you insist, then parts are available.

Here's a receiver with over 1,800 tongue weight capacity and 2" shank size:
Curt Trailer Hitch for Ford F-250 and F-350 Super Duty 2014 - C15410

There are other brands, including Reese, TorqLift and B&W, but most have 2.5" receiver and that limits choice as to WD hitch.

2014 Ford F-250 and F-350 Super Duty Trailer Hitch | etrailer.com


Weight-distributing hitches with a 2" receiver rated to carry your tongue weight are rare. Here's the only one I can find:

Blue Ox SwayPro Weight Distribution w/ Sway Control - Bolt On - Underslung - 20,000 GTW, 2,000 TW Blue Ox Weight Distribution BXW2004

If you decide on a 2.5" receiver, then be sure the receiver with the adapter to reduce the opening to 2" is still rated for enough weight capacity to handle your tongue weight.
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The front GAWR is 5600 , the rear GAWR is 6100 lbs. The GVWR is 10,000 lbs. I also have added the timbren SES for weight and anti-sway.
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Over 1,800 pounds tongue weight is way too much for an F-250. You're going to be overloaded.
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He's got the gas engine and about 3000# payload.

I dunno how much "headroom" there would be on the rear GAWR though. Would *guess* there's enough (1800-2000#). A scale would tell. (the 1800-2000# assumes he has a WDH that can move all the lifted front end weight back onto it.)

Everybody tells me the recent F250s are the same as the F350s except for the rear spring pack and label. If so, and if he's over the rear GAWR, that's easily fixable (and sounds like he's already done it with the Timbrens).
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He's got the gas engine and about 3000# payload.

I dunno how much "headroom" there would be on the rear GAWR though. Would *guess* there's enough (1800-2000#). A scale would tell. (the 1800-2000# assumes he has a WDH that can move all the lifted front end weight back onto it.)

Everybody tells me the recent F250s are the same as the F350s except for the rear spring pack and label. If so, and if he's over the rear GAWR, that's easily fixable (and sounds like he's already done it with the Timbrens).
The headroom you'r talking about on the rear GAWR . How would I check that with a scale?
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The headroom you'r talking about on the rear GAWR . How would I check that with a scale?
I know on CAT scales you weigh each axle separately on different pads, the "steer" and "drive" axle. Other wise, try backing half way onto a single-pad scale, rear axle on the pad, and use that number for your "drive"/rear axle.

Compare that number to the truck's rear GAWR. The difference will be how much weight you can put on the axle before exceeding the rear GAWR.
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Wouldn't that just be my payload or do I still to weigh it. If I need to weigh it could I use my tongue scale and a 2 ton jack to weigh one side of the axle then times that by two.
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Payload is usually more than can just be put on the rear axle--I think the payload number assumes that some of the weight with be distributed throughout the vehicle. An underframe hitch will add the tongue weight well behind the rear axle, and some of it will be put on the front axle by a WD hitch. Rear axle rating is just that--what the axle is rated to carry. As mentioned above, weigh the truck to get the axle weights as the truck will be loaded for a trip, then you will know how much room you have on the rear axle for hitch weight.
Also, the payload figure is almost always lower than the sum of the two axle ratings...
The really important item to me is to NEVER go over the weight capacity of the rear tires.
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Wouldn't that just be my payload or do I still to weigh it. If I need to weigh it could I use my tongue scale and a 2 ton jack to weigh one side of the axle then times that by two.
What wingnut says about payload. Some of payload can go on the front as well as rear axle.

Will your tongue weight scale handle half the truck's rear axle weight?
(I know people mount pressure gauges in the reservoir of their hydraulic jacks, and use that to calculate the weight on the jack ...)

What you describe is how some people have measured individual wheel weights on trailers. Saw it described on rv.net somewhere. Think they made a correction to the measured weight as the weight gauge wasn't under the wheel, but under the axle. And you want the weight on the wheel.
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The tongue weight scale will handle up to two thousand lbs. I would think that would be enough. I could jack truck up by rear axle wood block same height as scale and scale under other side of tire slowly let truck onto scale and get weight then times it by two?
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The tongue weight scale will handle up to two thousand lbs. I would think that would be enough. I could jack truck up by rear axle wood block same height as scale and scale under other side of tire slowly let truck onto scale and get weight then times it by two?
That sounds right to me.

If you block it up one side at the same place you weigh it on the other, there should be no need for a correction factor.
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Forget the axle capacity. The tires and springs will get overloaded before the axle. A floating axle is never a loading problem with SRW truck.
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