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Old 03-08-2014, 11:40 AM   #43
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I fill up at the local Meijer station in my area the fuel price are: regular gas $3.69 a gallon and diesel is $3.99 a gallon. With premium being $4:04 a gallon; this was as of Friday 03/07/14. And a lot of cars today require premium fuel so to me diesel is the only way to go.

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That is significantly better than in my area. Unleaded is $3.44 while diesel is $4.39.
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Old 03-08-2014, 12:13 PM   #45
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We were not looking for diesel to tow our 18 1/2 foot fiver, yes there was such a thing, but found a clean 05 Ram at a very good price so took the plunge. We have since upgraded the trailer, this beast doesn't break a sweat and gets very good mileage towing. I would not consider going back to gas.
Daily commuting is another story. It is not much better on fuel than a similar sized gasser and at the price of diesel it gets hard on the wallet. Wife uses it for shopping and medical appointments, certainly not the best thing for it, but it gets out and stretches it's legs on weekends. Things will change when I retire later this year.
Maintenance is not cheap, I only use quality filters, oil, and parts (no e-bay or wallyworld) but the trade off is less frequent servicing.
This thing has been almost completely trouble free. A rebuilt a/c pump was over three hundred and the wiper motor and linkage, has to be replaced as an assembly, was almost as much but after 9 years things like that can be expected.
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They just advertise more HP with premium.
...And fuel economy. This topic has already been beaten to death.
I'm sure you can run cheap, generic oil in it, tap water instead of anti-freeze, leave out the air filter, and never wax it, too. You'll never notice it. (I know this is an exageration)

Why buy a $30-40k truck and then skimp on 25 cents at the pump and prevent the engine from performing the way it was engineered to.

I genuinely love turbos. All four of my cars are turbos. And V6 ecoboosts are great performers, but they are high strung engines that don't just lope along. It's not a small block, pushrod V8 making 200hp.

But OK, it's your truck and you can do whatever you want to it. But maybe treat it to some 93 when towing.
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you should look at the torque curve of the ecoboost- very diesel like - max torque is around 1500 rpm,(i think) not 'high strung ' at all
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That is significantly better than in my area. Unleaded is $3.44 while diesel is $4.39.
Yeah, the amount of tax many states slap in diesel (and gas) is insane. I saw prices change about a dollar per gallon in one morning of driving. There's a huge poitical component to it, but this is not the place to roll that out.
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you should look at the torque curve of the ecoboost- very diesel like - max torque is around 1500 rpm,(i think) not 'high strung ' at all
High strung does not mean 8,000 RPM. My VW gas 1.8L turbo also has it's torque peak at 1,800rpm and it makes about 200lb-ft... from a 1.8 I-4 gasser. But it it high stung in my mind.

High strung (maybe just for me) is the amount of power the engine is extracting from a relativley inefficient fuel source and a relatively small engine. Lots of heat and compression and timing involved. All things that octane is critical for. And yes, my 12 year old VW with 200k miles only gets 93 octane, synthetic oil and a timing belt every 70k miles.
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you should look at the torque curve of the ecoboost- very diesel like - max torque is around 1500 rpm,(i think) not 'high strung ' at all
The full 420 LBFT of torque is advertised at 2500 RPM. But most is available under that. I forget what it has at 1000 RPM but it was impressive.
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The full 420 LBFT of torque is advertised at 2500 RPM. But most is available under that. I forget what it has at 1000 RPM but it was impressive.
For sure. That's the power of turbos. Back in 1996 Porsch was getting 460lbft out of the 911 at 2000rpm. And that was an air cooled 3.8L
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For sure. That's the power of turbos. Back in 1996 Porsch was getting 460lbft out of the 911 at 2000rpm. And that was an air cooled 3.8L
They sure do know how to extract big power out of the flat 6 3.8L. I believe they are still using that engine (same displacement at least) and getting over 500HP out of it. Im sure it is liquid cooled by now.
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