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Old 11-16-2015, 12:28 PM   #1
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WDH chains vs bars

I'm in the market for a WDH/sway. My budget is $300-$450. My TV can pull 5000k and TT weighs 2900k dry. I was looking at

Fastway 94-00-1000 e2 Series 2-Point Sway Hitch - 10000 lbs. Capacity https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0071L3IFK/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_T8HswbYM8HXX7

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CURT 17500 TruTrack Trunnion Bar Weight Distribution Hitch with Active Sway Control https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O46ZO02/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_E.HswbH0M35YV

I'm not sure on tongue weight; the rear does dip. I haven't felt much sway. I wouldn't have much weight other then est 500-1500 in gear and passengers.
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Old 11-16-2015, 02:14 PM   #2
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I've used and been around chain style equalizer bars my entire life. I'm happy with the results I have seen and have not had a failure (knock on wood). I have no experience with the bar style however.
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Old 11-16-2015, 03:29 PM   #3
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What's the difference in the two?
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Old 11-16-2015, 07:42 PM   #4
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I'm in the market for a WDH/sway. My budget is $300-$450.
That's a cheap hitch. Better than nothing, but not much better.

Instead spend $600 to $700 at Amazon and get one of these:

Reese Strait-Line with 1,200 pound trunnion bars, complete with adjustable shank, or
Blue Ox SwayPro, or
Equal-I-Zer

Those are much better designs and you'll be much happier with the results over the long run.

Strait-Line without shank: (Add about $125 for the adjustable shank.)
Amazon.com: Reese 66074 Strait-Line 1200 lbs. Trunnion Bar: Automotive

Blue Ox SwayPro with shank:
http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Ox-BXW100...+swaypro+hitch

Equal-I-Zer shank:
Amazon.com: Equal-i-zer 90024500 Adjustable Shank: Automotive

Equal-I-Zer hitch
Amazon.com: Equal-i-zer 90001001 Sway Control Hitch (No Shank): Automotive

Now, back to your questions of chains vs. no chains. I have a Strait-Line that uses chains. Works great. I have a ProPride that doesn't use chains.. The ProPride is much easier to fine-tune the settings. but then it cost over $2,400, orabout four times as much as the Strait-Line. So I would expect the ProPride to be a bit better than the Strait-Line.
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Old 11-18-2015, 09:58 PM   #5
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That's a cheap hitch. Better than nothing, but not much better.

Instead spend $600 to $700 at Amazon and get one of these:

Reese Strait-Line with 1,200 pound trunnion bars, complete with adjustable shank, or
Blue Ox SwayPro, or
Equal-I-Zer

Those are much better designs and you'll be much happier with the results over the long run.

Strait-Line without shank: (Add about $125 for the adjustable shank.)
Amazon.com: Reese 66074 Strait-Line 1200 lbs. Trunnion Bar: Automotive

Blue Ox SwayPro with shank:
http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Ox-BXW100...+swaypro+hitch

Equal-I-Zer shank:
Amazon.com: Equal-i-zer 90024500 Adjustable Shank: Automotive

Equal-I-Zer hitch
Amazon.com: Equal-i-zer 90001001 Sway Control Hitch (No Shank): Automotive

Now, back to your questions of chains vs. no chains. I have a Strait-Line that uses chains. Works great. I have a ProPride that doesn't use chains.. The ProPride is much easier to fine-tune the settings. but then it cost over $2,400, orabout four times as much as the Strait-Line. So I would expect the ProPride to be a bit better than the Strait-Line.

Smokey, he said his TT is 2900# empty. Do not see where he needs 1200# bars!
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Old 11-19-2015, 10:59 AM   #6
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Smokey, he said his TT is 2900# empty. Do not see where he needs 1200# bars!
Granted. But he was considering hitches with spring bars rated 10,000 and 17,500. So I mentioned good WD hitches with max tongue weight of 1,000 pounds, or as close to 1,000 pounds that is available for each brand of hitch.

His 5,000-pound max trailer weight (ignore empty weight) with 15% tongue weight needs a WD hitch with a minimum of 750 pounds tongue weight capacity. So a WD hitch with 800 pounds max tongue weight capacity is all he "needs". But having more hitch than required is okay, within reason.

The Reese Strait-Line trunnion bar hitch is available with 800, 1,200 and higher capacity spring bars. 1,000 pound spring bars are not available for the Strait-Line, but they are available for other brands of good WD hitches. He needs the one with 800 pounds capacity, but 1200 is not too much. My tongue weight is ~650 pounds, and my ProPride hitch has max tongue weight of 1,400 pounds. I can easily adjust the tension on the spring bars to support the 650 pounds tongue weight, with lots of adjustment remaining in case I graduate to a heavier trailer some day.

My Strait-Line hitch is rated 800 pounds max tongue weight. When I load my cargo trailer to about 6,154 pounds with 13% tongue weight, that's right on the 800 pounds tongue weight limit. The trailer has GVWR of 7,000 pounds, but I can't load it to the max unless I invest in a stronger WD hitch. It's a lot of work to move the Pro-Pride hitch from the TT to the cargo trailer, so I don't do that unless absolutely required for a long haul with the loaded cargo trailer.
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So far I have pulled our trailed 6700 miles using this WDH and sway control with no problems with pulling or sway. I highly recommend it and it is inexpensive, not cheap.
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... and it is inexpensive, not cheap.
Disagree. It's cheap.

Internet SALE $269.00
Reg $299.00
Freight: $100.00

So less than $400 delivered.

But the sway control system is a friction-based sway bar. Adequate under mild sway conditions, but inadequate when you get into the severe sway conditions. You have lots of miles using it, but you've apparently been lucky because you haven't encountered the combination of conditions that can result in uncontrollable sway. Such as puffing cross winds while towing down a rain-slick highway with a chug hole in the middle of a curve and meeting an 18-wheeler barreling down the highway at 70 MPH.

Husky makes a good WD hitch with much better sway control than that one. But it costs more than $269 plus.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
Note that at that $500 price it does not include the spring bars. Order the spring bars of the correct tongue weight capacity for about $100 more, and the total is almost $600.
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Disagree. It's cheap.

Internet SALE $269.00
Reg $299.00
Freight: $100.00

So less than $400 delivered.

But the sway control system is a friction-based sway bar. Adequate under mild sway conditions, but inadequate when you get into the severe sway conditions. You have lots of miles using it, but you've apparently been lucky because you haven't encountered the combination of conditions that can result in uncontrollable sway. Such as puffing cross winds while towing down a rain-slick highway with a chug hole in the middle of a curve and meeting an 18-wheeler barreling down the highway at 70 MPH.

Husky makes a good WD hitch with much better sway control than that one. But it costs more than $269 plus.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
Note that at that $500 price it does not include the spring bars. Order the spring bars of the correct tongue weight capacity for about $100 more, and the total is almost $600.
What I meant by "not cheap" is that it is strong and very well built. I realize that you are an "expert" in all things WDH and sway control but unless you have driven a rig exactly like mine then you have no knowledge of how well mine works. We have driven through blinding rain storms in Louisiana and Alabama, extremely gusty winds in West Texas and Colorado and all manner of fast moving 18 wheel trucks close by. The bow wave never presents a problem. The friction sway bar works great.
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I just got the Equalizer E4 with the bars and like it. PPL motorhomes have the cheapest price I found. Around $440, shipped.
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Andersen wd/anti sway hitch. Better choice for the money. Look up reviews of all and check out youtube.
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WDH chains vs bars
Nit picking, but you don't mean chains vs. bars. All WDH have spring bars. So I suspect you mean chains vs. adjustable brackets for adjusting the tension on the spring bars.

Reese Strait-Line with dual cam sway control is an example of using chain links to adjust the tension on the spring bars. Equal-I-Zer is an example of adjustable brackets. The ultimate example of using something other than chain links for adjusting the tension on the spring bars is the ProPride system. which uses a built-in screw jack to change the tension on the spring bars.

One of the reasons I love my ProPride so much is it's simple to adjust the tension on the spring bars to result in only a few pounds change in weight distributed off the rear axle of the tow vehicle. With my Strait-Line, one chain link is often too much change in weight distribution, so then I have to go in and change some of the mounting bolts to fine-tune the weight distribution. That's a PITA, but it can be done. It would be less drama with an Equal-I-Zer-type hitch.
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Nit picking, but you don't mean chains vs. bars. All WDH have spring bars. So I suspect you mean chains vs. adjustable brackets for adjusting the tension on the spring bars.

I believe the Andersen No-Sway WDH system uses chains and NO spring bars. :-)
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