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Old 05-26-2019, 07:22 PM   #1
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What can I haul?

The wife and I are planning to go full time, possibly in the fall. I want to buy a new truck and a used travel trailer. Im looking at the F250 Diesel Supercab SRW with 18 in. tires, the integrated trailer braking control and the high capacity towing pakage. I want to buy a ramp system that weighs about 300 lbs. and bolts into the back of the truck , and lifts a 900lb Harley into the bed. Does anyone have any idea what I'd be able to tow, weight wise, with this type of setup? We're not new to camping, having had truck campers and a mini motorhome in the past. The weights are confusing the heck out me and I don't want to buy too little truck or too much trailer.
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Old 05-26-2019, 07:29 PM   #2
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I think I would look seriously at a 5th wheel toy hauler TT. You'll do better with the weights then a bumper pull at upto 500 lbs tounge weight +1200 lbs in the back. Plus your bike will be inside not out in the weather.
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The wife and I are planning to go full time, possibly in the fall. I want to buy a new truck and a used travel trailer. Im looking at the F250 Diesel Supercab SRW with 18 in. tires, the integrated trailer braking control and the high capacity towing pakage. I want to buy a ramp system that weighs about 300 lbs. and bolts into the back of the truck , and lifts a 900lb Harley into the bed. Does anyone have any idea what I'd be able to tow, weight wise, with this type of setup? We're not new to camping, having had truck campers and a mini motorhome in the past. The weights are confusing the heck out me and I don't want to buy too little truck or too much trailer.
You will need to figure out what size and type of trailer you want. You need to have an idea on the weight of the bike you want. Maybe a toy hauler would simplify a lot of things?
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Old 05-26-2019, 08:43 PM   #4
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F-250 won't have the available payload for both the tongue weight of a travel trailer and a heavy motorcycle in the bed.

Start looking at F-350.
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You will be fine with the F250 and its 6340 rawr which is good for approx 3000-3200 lbs load in the bed.....which is the same as a 10000 gvwr F350 srw.

Look for a F250 with the heavy service package or camper package as it has the same front and rear suspension as the 11500 gvwr F350 srw with a 7230 rawr.
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If full-timing I would look for a "higher quality" used RV trailer than a cheap one with a tantalizing price. Look at some 3-10 year old Arctic Fox, Outdoors RV, Lance... Many will come with larger tanks, better insulated, higher cargo capacities, and thermal pane windows.
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There are not many toy hauler 5th wheels (if any) that a little F-250 can haul. Usually they are way to heavy for the suspension. There are a few toy haulers that a F-350 SRW truck can haul.

To full time you know you will need storage space. A toy hauler travel trailer with the motorcycle in the garage area towed by a F-350 SRW truck with a cap on the bed gives you the best that a SRW truck can handle.

Now, they make big triple axle 5th wheel tow haulers that you need a modern dually to tow it. I am thinking they are 44' long with not one but two patio areas.

Ok - back to putting the motorcycle in the bed of the truck. You realize this is not going to be easy. To me, a ramp is your best bet. A lift, humm, not sure how that would work and how much cargo capacity it would use up.

Agree, a toy hauler travel trailer or 5th wheel is what you should be looking at. That and a F-350 at least and maybe a dually.
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You will be fine with the F250 and its 6340 rawr which is good for approx 3000-3200 lbs load in the bed.....which is the same as a 10000 gvwr F350 srw.

Look for a F250 with the heavy service package or camper package as it has the same front and rear suspension as the 11500 gvwr F350 srw with a 7230 rawr.
A F250 with the diesel engine decreases the payload capacity a LOT...vs. the gas engine. I seriously doubt that he would have more than about 2300 lbs of payload capacity on that truck, maybe less. To put 300 lbs of rack and 900 lbs of motorcycle in the bed of an F250 diesel is just asking for trouble. It's a known fact among the folks that have bought F250 diesel trucks that the biggest handicap of that setup is the payload capacity....or should I say the LACK of payload capacity. I had a 2011 with a payload of 2148 lbs....puny at best and basically non functional as far as trying to get almost any 5ver.
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I use to haul a Rzr and generator as well as extra water and firewood in the back of an F250 and then a Ram 2500 and pull 2 bumper pulls behind these trucks. Watch the tire ratings, you do not want to go over on those.
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F-250 won't have the available payload for both the tongue weight of a travel trailer and a heavy motorcycle in the bed.

Start looking at F-350.

If buying new and going full time get an F350. Why start out with a TV that is at GVWR or over when spending $50K+ on your tow vehicle.
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Look here if you want to go by the book.
https://www.fleet.ford.com/resources...de_r6_Nov8.pdf
Why do they even build the F450 ?
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If buying new and going full time get an F350. Why start out with a TV that is at GVWR or over when spending $50K+ on your tow vehicle.
Exactly. F-250 - all the negatives of owning a Heavy Duty truck, with only 2/3rds of the capability. I don't understand why the F-250/Diesel even exists.
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A F250 with the diesel engine decreases the payload capacity a LOT...vs. the gas engine. I seriously doubt that he would have more than about 2300 lbs of payload capacity on that truck, maybe less. To put 300 lbs of rack and 900 lbs of motorcycle in the bed of an F250 diesel is just asking for trouble. It's a known fact among the folks that have bought F250 diesel trucks that the biggest handicap of that setup is the payload capacity....or should I say the LACK of payload capacity. I had a 2011 with a payload of 2148 lbs....puny at best and basically non functional as far as trying to get almost any 5ver.
There is approx 125-200 lb difference in a gas vs diesel, same configured trucks ,rear axle weight with the gazzer having that much more in the bed payload.
Like I stated the F250 6.7 can have 3000-3200 in the bed payload. Plenty capacity for what he wants to carry.
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There is approx 125-200 lb difference in a gas vs diesel, same configured trucks ,rear axle weight with the gazzer having that much more in the bed payload.
Like I stated the F250 6.7 can have 3000-3200 in the bed payload. Plenty capacity for what he wants to carry.
huh?

F-250 6.7 will have 2100-2400lbs payload, max. 10,000lb GVWR limits you there, as does the de-rated rear axle.

I don't really understand the point in dancing around with a F-250 High Capacity Package? Your just....still limited to the 2100-2400lbs payload and 10,000lbs GVWR of the F-250 truck.

The correct solution with a 11,500GVWR and 7230lb RAWR is a F-350.
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