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05-02-2013, 08:07 PM
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What vehicle is good for towing my travel trailer?
Thinking about buying a 3/4 cargo van or pick-up truck to pull my 2011 Gulfstream travel trailer which is a 24 RBL and weight lable says GVWR 7410, UVW 4225, NCC 3185.
Thanks, Bob
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05-03-2013, 04:47 AM
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You should be fine with any 3/4 ton unit.
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05-03-2013, 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by trackman
You should be fine with any 3/4 ton unit.
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Ditto-IMHO. Good luck and happy camping!
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05-03-2013, 07:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildbob52
Thinking about buying a 3/4 cargo van or pick-up truck to pull my 2011 Gulfstream travel trailer which is a 24 RBL and weight lable says GVWR 7410, UVW 4225, NCC 3185.
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Only a very few half-ton pickups and no half-ton vans could handle the hitch weight of a 7,410-pound TT without being overloaded. Ford makes one F-150 that could do it, but it would be at the limits of its capability, and dealers don't stock them so you'd have to special-order it. It's an F-150 with the heavy duty payload package.
With a three-quarter-ton pickup, no problem. All would have enough payload capacity to handle the hitch weight of the 7,410-pound trailer.
The Ford E-350 van with 4.1 axle ratio and 6.8L V10 engine could handle it with no problem. Either the regular-size van or the extended van, with or without seats. It has GVWR of 9,500 pounds, so it can handle the hitch weight of the trailer with no problem if you don't load the van down with a van full of NFL linebackers. It has GCWR of 18,500, so even if you load the van down to 10,000 pounds, you'd still have enough power and torque to drag that trailer over the Rockies.
Too bad Ford doesn't still make the E-350 van with a diesel engine. That was a really good towing machine when they made it. But if you want a diesel-powered van, I think GM still makes one, and Ford will have a new one in September.
If you're not in a big hurry to buy the tow vehicle, then look into the new 2014 Ford Transit van. It will be available in September with either a 3.5L EcoBoost engine, or a direct-injected 3.2L Power StrokeŽ inline 5-cylinder turbo diesel, or the plain ole 300-horse 3.7L V6 that is now available in the F-150. GVWR up to 10,360 pounds, so no problem with the hitch weight of your trailer. Four different roof heights from the factory, so you can make it work for your special requirements. Passenger van or cargo van, or a combo of cargo van with windows and some seats. It looks sorta like the Mercedes-Benz Sprinter van, depending on wheelbase and roof height you choose.
2014 Ford Transit Work Trucks | View Transit Features | Ford.com
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05-03-2013, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SmokeyWren
Only a very few half-ton pickups and no half-ton vans could handle the hitch weight of a 7,410-pound TT without being overloaded. Ford makes one F-150 that could do it, but it would be at the limits of its capability, and dealers don't stock them so you'd have to special-order it. It's an F-150 with the heavy duty payload package.
With a three-quarter-ton pickup, no problem. All would have enough payload capacity to handle the hitch weight of the 7,410-pound trailer.
The Ford E-350 van with 4.1 axle ratio and 6.8L V10 engine could handle it with no problem. Either the regular-size van or the extended van, with or without seats. It has GVWR of 9,500 pounds, so it can handle the hitch weight of the trailer with no problem if you don't load the van down with a van full of NFL linebackers. It has GCWR of 18,500, so even if you load the van down to 10,000 pounds, you'd still have enough power and torque to drag that trailer over the Rockies.
Too bad Ford doesn't still make the E-350 van with a diesel engine. That was a really good towing machine when they made it. But if you want a diesel-powered van, I think GM still makes one, and Ford will have a new one in September.
If you're not in a big hurry to buy the tow vehicle, then look into the new 2014 Ford Transit van. It will be available in September with either a 3.5L EcoBoost engine, or a direct-injected 3.2L Power StrokeŽ inline 5-cylinder turbo diesel, or the plain ole 300-horse 3.7L V6 that is now available in the F-150. GVWR up to 10,360 pounds, so no problem with the hitch weight of your trailer. Four different roof heights from the factory, so you can make it work for your special requirements. Passenger van or cargo van, or a combo of cargo van with windows and some seats. It looks sorta like the Mercedes-Benz Sprinter van, depending on wheelbase and roof height you choose.
2014 Ford Transit Work Trucks | View Transit Features | Ford.com
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What about this van I'm looking at now Ford E-250 with a small 4.6L V-8 engine? Here another idea a 2006 Ford E350, Chateau Edition, Power Stroke Diesel - $18988 which I don't know what gas mileage is for a Diesel van?
http://nashville.craigslist.org/ctd/3770573543.html
Thanks, Bob
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05-03-2013, 08:00 AM
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If you're interested, a fellow at work is selling a super clean 7.3L diesel Ford Excursion (Limited, I think). If it will fit your needs, PM me and I can put you in contact with him.
Disclaimer: I have no financial interest in any resulting transaction whatsoever.
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05-03-2013, 08:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyWren
If you're not in a big hurry to buy the tow vehicle, then look into the new 2014 Ford Transit van. It will be available in September with either a 3.5L EcoBoost engine, or a direct-injected 3.2L Power StrokeŽ inline 5-cylinder turbo diesel, or the plain ole 300-horse 3.7L V6 that is now available in the F-150. GVWR up to 10,360 pounds, so no problem with the hitch weight of your trailer. Four different roof heights from the factory, so you can make it work for your special requirements. Passenger van or cargo van, or a combo of cargo van with windows and some seats. It looks sorta like the Mercedes-Benz Sprinter van, depending on wheelbase and roof height you choose.
2014 Ford Transit Work Trucks | View Transit Features | Ford.com
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The Ford Transit is to Europe as the F-150 is to the US. It has been the standard 'tradesman's' vehicle for nearly 50 years. Used for everything from a plumber's van to an ambulance, RV, bus... The list goes on and on.
Ford Transit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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05-03-2013, 10:27 AM
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So look at the truck specs and see if the tow vehicle is rated to tow your trailer. You are legally responsible for having an adequate tow vehicle.
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05-03-2013, 06:24 PM
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I had a 2008 Ford f250 with the 5.4 liter v8 and it was way under powered with terrible gas mileage towing a 6500lb. TT . Get a big block gas with high torque or better yet a diesel.
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05-03-2013, 08:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildbob52
What about this van I'm looking at now Ford E-250 with a small 4.6L V-8 engine?
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Hitch weight is the problem with the E-250. What is the GVWR of the van? How much will the wet and loaded van weigh before you tie onto the trailer? I suspect you'll be maxed out with that van and a 7,400 pound trailer.
Plus the 4.6L was a weak sister. Maybe it would be acceptable for dragging 7,400 pounds if it has the 4.10 axle. I had a 2003 with 3.55 axle, and after one trip to Phoenix and back, dragging about 6,000 pounds cargo trailer, I decided I needed more grunt. I never realized before that trip how many long, steep grades there are on I-10 in southeastern Arizona. So I traded that 4.6L for my current EcoBoost, which has all the power I could want.
Plenty of power and torque to tow that trailer, and plenty of GVWR to handle the hitch weight if you don't load the van with a lot of heavy tools and passengers and stuff. The Chateau trim is the luxury trim package. Nice! (I had a 1977 Chateau van and put over 100,000 miles on it).
The earlier 6.0L diesel of 2003 and 2004 model years were trouble prone, so that gave all 6.0Ls a bad reputation, even as late as 2006.
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05-03-2013, 09:48 PM
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I agree that the 4.6L should not even be a consideration and the 5.4 would minimally addiquit although I love mine in my 07 Expedition. I do easily tow a 28' open trailer with 6 quads I don't know if it would have a lot of torque for a big TT.
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05-04-2013, 11:30 AM
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My travel trailer living area is only 25 foot long. With the tongue it's 28.
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05-08-2013, 09:06 AM
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You wouldn't believe how many truck dealers have tried to push vehicles that would never be able to pull my trailer which weighs 7,000 pounds. One told me a Chev S-10 with a V-8 engine would do it or this truck with the hitch on the back that says it rated for 10,000 pounds. But the vehicle has only a V-6 engine. These dealers are Ford, GM, Dodge. I wonder if the trucks listed below could do the job?
Toyota Tundra
Nissian Titan
Thanks, Bob
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05-08-2013, 05:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildbob52
I wonder if the trucks listed below could do the job?
Toyota Tundra
Nissian Titan
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No better than the big 3 half tons, and not as good as the Ford or GM half tons with HD payload option.
Most half ton pickups have GVWR around 6,600 to 7,200 pounds. Not enough payload capacity for a CrewCab 4x4 to tow a 7,000-pound tandem-axle trailer without being overloaded. With the right options, the F-150 can have GVWR of 7,700 pounds or 8,200 pounds. With GVWR of 7,700 pounds and a CrewCab body with 4x4 drivetrain, the F-150 would probably be overloaded with the hitch weight of a 7,400-pound trailer. The F-150 with 8,200 GVWR shouldn't have any problem with that trailer, but for some reason the F-150s with the HD Payload pkg and 8,200 GVWR are scarce as hen's teeth. Dealers don't stock them because there's very little demand for them. Most people that need that much payload just move up to a three-quarter-ton pickup.
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