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Old 11-16-2013, 12:31 AM   #15
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Been told by a Dodge dealer there new van that just came out has only a towing power of 5100 pounds with there gas or diesel engine.

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Old 11-16-2013, 08:04 AM   #16
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Good question, what are you going to tow with it?????

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Old 11-16-2013, 06:28 PM   #17
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2011 Gulfstream Travel Trailer, 24RBL model, which load with cargo is 7,000 lbs.
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Old 12-21-2013, 10:07 PM   #18
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Vans are awesome towing vehicles. Based on pretty much identical frame and drivetrain as pick-ups, they tow well.

We've been towing our 2004 Keystone Springdale 37BH with a 2006 GMC Savana 3500 6.0 liter 15 passenger van. Currently has 205k miles, but it never towed before I purchased it. The manufacturer's tow limit for the van is 10,000 lbs, and our trailer weighs 11K or 12K lbs. Our total weight on CAT scales is 18,200 lbs.
The trailer is 39' long, and our total length is 60'. We're a bit over the limit but I could care less. The main safety device is the gasket between the driver seat and the steering wheel.

I use a weight distributing hitch. I also have an anti-sway bar but in 2000 miles I never used it. The trailer always follows straight and never wiggles. Perhaps it is due to larger frontal area of the van, but I never had any swaying issues.

The van has been equipped with a 10k lbs hitch, trans cooler, towing mirrors and a brake controller. I can comfortably maintain up to 70mph on a highway. We get 7.8 mpg when towing, I think it's fantastic.

However, when we were in Asheville NC area, it's an extremely hilly terrain (9% grade), our combination could only maintain 35mph in the rightmost lane and also began to overheat (no electric fan here, the fan is viscous coupling on water pump), so I turned both interior heaters on full blast and it helped a lot. The uphill was for only may be 10 miles, so no big deal.

We're a young family and we have two little daughters (2 and 1 y.o), so getting a van was a no-brainer. I removed the extra seats and added a conversion van power sofa. You can't beat the room inside, the kids can sleep on the power bed, go potty, have lunch, walk around, etc.

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Old 12-22-2013, 03:20 AM   #19
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Looks nice. I think you need to tighten up the WDH a little though!
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Old 12-22-2013, 05:01 PM   #20
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You can't beat the room inside, the kids can sleep on the power bed, go potty, have lunch, walk around, etc.
Illegal to have unrestrained children in the van. If you get into an accident while the children are not wearing their seat belts/shoulder harness - or the little one (maybe both?) would probably be required to be in a properly-belted in child seat - then you'll not only be very sorry because of your injured or dead children, you'll probably also get stuck with a huge fine.

I owned a similar custom van 30+ years ago - before Big Brother passed seat belt restrictions. My two kids played or napped in the back end for over 100,000 miles over several years, with never a problem. But that was back in the day before the safety nazis became powerful enough to restrict your freedom to make your own decisions.
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Old 12-22-2013, 07:59 PM   #21
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A little OT here, but when a term like "safety nazis" is used in terms of protecting children...from poor decision making by adults it just gets my attention.

But perhaps that's because I was once asked during a medical emergency response by a ten year old if he was going to die. After his throat was sliced from ear to ear by being ejected through the windshield of his Mom's car. (He survived...)

My father and stepfather fought the nazis in Africa, Sicily, and Italy. Guess my perspective is a bit different. A little hyperbole goes a long way.

Jumping down from the soapbox now....
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Tow with a van

We went all over the country (even the NC I-40) and Flagstaff to Phoenix with a 1979 chev g20 5.7 l pulling a 32 ft until 1992. We never did overheat, but I didnt push it quite as hard as you, kept the speed at 50 or lower. I did have it floored in first gear on the NC pull at about 25 but was pulling away from the 18 wheelers.

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