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Old 01-18-2018, 10:56 AM   #15
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I found this site Big Truck Big RV on youtube.

Very informative.

He covers tires, suspension, hitch weight, one-piece shower units, gas/electric refrigerators vs household fridge. You name it, he covers it.

He even has a segment on smaller trailers.


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Old 01-24-2018, 10:39 PM   #16
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My husband and I are looking to buy our first trailer! As exciting as this is, I feel like we're in over our heads with how much there is to learn... Hoping the wonderful folks of this site can help!

We are looking for a lightweight trailer with no slideouts, under ~20'. Our tow vehicle is a 2009 4WD Honda Pilot (towing capacity 4500 lb), so we would like to keep GVWR under ~3600 lb. It is just us and a small dog, so something that sleeps only 2 is just fine. Budget is $15000 (somewhat flexible).

We've been looking around and have found a few trailers that we think would work for us that meet our criteria:

Jayco Hummingbird 16FD (UVW: 2535, GVWR: 3500, NCC: 965, hitch weight: 270, length: 18.8', height: 9.2', width: 8.1')

Venture Sonic Lite SL149VML (UVW: 2745, GVWR: 3500, NCC: 755, hitch weight: 290, length: 19.2', height: 9.4', width: 7.5')

Does anyone have any experience with either of the above - good or bad?
Can our Honda Pilot handle these trailers?
Are there any other, similar trailers that we should take a look at?
Any other advice for some newbies?


You should look at the Rockwood mini lites and the Geo-pros. Quality trailers and a step up from entry level. Things to consider...are you ok with one of you crawling over the other to get out of bed?(sideways beds). Heated enclosed underbelly can extend your camping season. Ducted air can give you a quieter air conditioning, otherwise keep ear plugs handy. No sink in the bathroom is doable but you're either spitting into the toilet or the kitchen sink. The shower...can you actually use it? Have fun and good luck with the decision. We have just ordered a Rockwood mini lite 2109s.

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Let us know how you like your new Rockwood and what its actual weight is versus the brochure weight when you get it. 4,250 lbs for Unloaded Vehicle Weight sounds on the heavy side for a “mini lite”. Nice floorlan. I really like rear-entry plans with the noisy fridge exhaust not on the right side wall where you want your chairs under the awning and relaxing.
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Old 01-29-2018, 06:31 PM   #18
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Yes, I'm getting excited for spring, will let you know. The weight is higher than some, but I think it's due to them not skimping. 2-30lb propane tanks. Curved glass shower doors. Wood cabinetry. Slide=200lbs. Tandem axles=250lbs. Solid surface counter tops. TV included. We've looked at a lot of trailers, and our old brand, Coachmen Apex, has skimped a lot now...they don't even have a shower surround in the bathroom like our old one, and the frames aren't as heavy.
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:53 AM   #19
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Before you decide on a trailer there are several factors that you need to take into consideration with your tow vehicle. I will list them for you, please ask if you have any questions.

GVWR (Gross Vehicle weight rating) = This is the total your vehicle can handle including the vehicle tounge weight of the trailer occupants fuel and cargo. You cannot safely exceed this.

GCWR (Gross Combined weight rating) = This is the total your vehicle with the trailer attached can weigh. You cannot safely exceed this.

GAWR (Gross Axle weight rating) This is the maximum weight you can put on the front and rear axles of the vehicle. This can be managed by using a good weight distribution hitch to move weight to the front of the SUV and rear to the trailer axles. You cannot safely exceed this.

All the information above is available from Honda either through documentation or on the door stickers.

I do have a nifty excel file that calculates what you vehicle can safely tow. If you would like a copy please private message me and I will email you a copy. I am not trying to discourage you from using the Honda as a tow vehicle but I have my doubts it will be able to do what want safely. When we started our journey we had a Jeep Liberty with a 5000lbs tow capacity and quickly determined that it would not tow more than a pop up camper safely. Others will disagree with me but numbers don't lie and don't think your will work with the trailers you are looking at. We ended up getting a second hand F150 and upgraded to a 25ft travel trailer and we do not have any issues towing through any weather conditions.

One last question is does the Honda have the factory trailer tow package? This is important as it would have then come with transmission cooler, engine oil cooler and factory hitch on the back of the SUV. If it did not you will also need to add a transmission cooler at a very minimum.

Good Luck with the search and please feel free to ask me any questions you may have.

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