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Old 06-17-2014, 03:40 PM   #1
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Recommendations Kz Sprtsmen Classic 18rbt

We have a 2004 Toyota Sienna towing capacity 3500 lbs. We are looking at purchasing a KX Sportsmen Classic 18rbt. My husband is leaning towards this one, for some reason I'm not convinced.

Do you have a recommendation on a hybrid travel trailer that will be okay to tow with our vehicle? We are not in the market for a new vehicle right now. We have a pop up but it has had problems with leaking. I like the combination of trailer pop up with a separate bathroom.

Do you have one you like? I like the idea of an oven but is it an over kill?

What do you have in your hybrid trailer that you like and what could you live without.

Thank you in advance for your help.
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Old 06-22-2014, 04:02 PM   #2
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Recommendations Kz Sprtsmen Classic 18rbt

It will be very difficult to find a hybrid that will be under 3500 lbs when loaded with propane, batteries, camping gear. There are a few single axle hybrids that might be close to your limit, but check the cargo capacity on them. Some leave very very little weight left to hold essentials. They advertise a low GVWR, BUT ONLY GIVE YOU 250 lbs for your stuff. You'll overload the single axel in no time.

For a minivan I would not recommend a full height trailer. I would look at newer popups (a high wall perhaps), A frames, or trail manors.

The one you've mentioned does leave 800 some odd pounds for cargo so that's better than some of the other small hybrids.

Have you checked the Sienna for any frontal area limits for towing? Some vehicles can handle 3500 pounds when low profile, but once it's a barn door, it's too much to handle.
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Pulling the 18RBT up on Google it has a base weight of 2700lbs. That is without a furnace, LP tank / s', DSI water heater, awning...You add up these optional items to this 18' RV trailer and your 3000lbs. Add stuff (food, cloths, tools, chairs, firewood, kitchen items, people) your looking well over the Toyota's tow rating. And the dry hitch weight is 350 lbs, add stuff and the hitch weight will be 450 lbs very easy. There may be a few v-6 vehicles able to handle a small hybrid, but the Toyota mini-van or any mini-vans in general is not made for that.

We had a 05' Toyota 4Runner (SUV) and pulled both our 05' hybrid ( 24' / 4700 lbs loaded) and our 2013 hybrid (25' 5100 loaded). The 4Runner was a V-8 rated at 7200 towing and 750 hitch weight. The V-6 4Runner's are rated only at 5000 at which I would have never towed either of these two hybrids.
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