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Old 06-04-2005, 12:22 AM   #1
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On our old FB2200, when the water tanks were filled to the max, they
bent the metal support struts, so I had reinforced them.

On our new LE3305, there are more support struts, but I still
managed to bow them..... perhaps I over filled?

I think this is a pretty common problem with
most of the Weekend Warriors although it's something which most folks probably don't
worry about.

Anyway, this afternoon I fixed the problem by adding more
steel to the center of the water tanks.

I bent the OEM struts back to straight and
painted them grey rustoleum, just to be different

When the water tanks are bowed out, the extra
water they hold can't be utilized because the
up take line is at a higher level. So why carry
this extra weight?

Another project for you guys


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On our old FB2200, when the water tanks were filled to the max, they
bent the metal support struts, so I had reinforced them.

On our new LE3305, there are more support struts, but I still
managed to bow them..... perhaps I over filled?

I think this is a pretty common problem with
most of the Weekend Warriors although it's something which most folks probably don't
worry about.

Anyway, this afternoon I fixed the problem by adding more
steel to the center of the water tanks.

I bent the OEM struts back to straight and
painted them grey rustoleum, just to be different

When the water tanks are bowed out, the extra
water they hold can't be utilized because the
up take line is at a higher level. So why carry
this extra weight?

Another project for you guys


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Old 06-04-2005, 07:44 AM   #3
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Howie!!!! Welcome Back buddy!! Long time no talk to! How was that Mammoth trip, eh?

Yeap...this is a problem...in our PDI the 'Orientation Specialist' pointed out one of the things you DON'T want to do is fill your tanks all the way...if it starts overflowin', then shut off the water and drain off the excess. He had a good reason, but for the life of me I can't remember it right now!

But every coach I've seen or had, had this problem...I think if yo were to just replace the bars with a heavier-duty steel bar, then you'd be OK.

Also...one of the things I noticed was the 'join' pipe between the two tanks- seems to just be floppin' around. This I see as a major weak point, so I plan on trying to bracket it somehow so it doesn't vibrate and start cracking. I've had water tanks replaced on my old unit, and they ain't cheap!

Good to see ya back!

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Old 06-04-2005, 08:34 AM   #4
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WWFan:

Also...one of the things I noticed was the 'join' pipe between the two tanks- seems to just be floppin' around. This I see as a major weak point, so I plan on trying to bracket it somehow so it doesn't vibrate and start cracking. I've had water tanks replaced on my old unit, and they ain't cheap!

Good to see ya back!

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Thanks, and good to be back. We did some excellent riding
at Mammoth and the weather could not have been
better.

We checked out Glass Creek campground for a gathering site.
There is lots of room and all flat.

I made a bracket for the FB2200 for the same
reasons you outline and it will be my next
fix it project when I install a shut off valve
between the two 75 gallon tanks.

Some of the early production 06 models had this
addtional shut off valve..... but then WW stopped
doing it for some unknown reason. (COST?)
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Hummm....shut off valve between the two tanks? Would that be so you could only fill one of them? There'll be times when I need to know exactly how much water I'm putting in- that would be a good idea! Thanks!
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That was one of the first things I put on my original WW and then also my Nomad. Reason being, was on my second trip with my WW I broke the transfer line between the two tanks and pumped all 100 gals of H2O on the road. I installed a 1 1/2" slide valve. This allowed me to either fill just the front tank or protect the storage in at least 1 tank if something happened. When I took my WW back to Warrior for some work, they saw what I had done and said they would probally use the idea. I can't believe they stopped putting in a $5.00 slide valve.

I also bent the retaining straps on both of my Th'ers. I did the same type of reinforcements as you did Howie. I actually lost one going down the road and found it missing sometime down the road. At least someone didn't come up along side with a metal rod sticking out of the front of there car.

On my Alfa, the water tank in totally enclosed inside the frame, I can't get to it if I tried. When I did the factory tour, the tanks seemed to be very secure in the frame. I haven't heard of any problems with them so I guess there secure.

Next add-on is turn signal lights mid-ship. Going to work on them tomorrow.

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Old 06-04-2005, 07:06 PM   #7
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Where's my pencil......

'56Nomad WW improvements I want to do to mine'

#7.........reinforce the water tank supports.
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Man Howie...you are one BUSY dude! I wish I could keep up...I'm still trying to figure out my inverter!
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Hey Phatty:

Maybe we can share the cost of getting 56 down here to do our inverters FOR us, ey?

Did you find his post with the diagram?

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yeah, i got it...sweet info.
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Hey you firefighters or engineers...
Ok.... here is a challenge: who can
calculate the extra volume of water carried when the
two 75 gallon tanks are filled and bulged.

Here are the dimentions for one 75 gallon water tank
and I'm estimating the bulge at 4"

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Well...let the fun begin!

I would have to say that there is significant error-factor here due to a couple reasons...

1. The top of the tank may sag a little due to strain on the tank as a whole.

2. The droop on the bottom of the tank, as you illustrated, is most likely not uniform across the entire bottom surface. It probably "tents-up" (or down in this case).

With that said, I think you could make a best-guess calculation by using (LxWxH)/2
But instead of the arc, you would consider it to be half a cube, from two upper corners to the opposite lower corners...a triangle. Does that make sense? Easier to figure that way.

(58"x46"x4")/2 = 5336 cubic inch = 23.0995671 gallon [US, liquid]

23 gallons.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PhatFireMan:
Well...let the fun begin!

I would have to say that there is significant error-factor here due to a couple reasons...

1. The top of the tank may sag a little due to strain on the tank as a whole.

2. The droop on the bottom of the tank, as you illustrated, is most likely not uniform across the entire bottom surface. It probably "tents-up" (or down in this case).

With that said, I think you could make a best-guess calculation by using (LxWxH)/2
But instead of the arc, you would consider it to be half a cube, from two upper corners to the opposite lower corners...a triangle. Does that make sense? Easier to figure that way.

(58"x46"x4")/2 = 5336 cubic inch = 23.0995671 gallon [US, liquid]

23 gallons.

$.02 I aint no rocket scientist.
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Based on that estimate it looks like:

23gallons x 2 Tanks= 46 gallons

8.33 x 46gallons = 383 pounds

So it could be that we're carrying over 350
pounds of water that we can't use
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You "can't use it" because it is below the level of the discharge orifice?
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