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Old 09-26-2005, 10:24 PM   #1
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We went back to Walker River Resort for our second trip and had a great time. My 14 year old son flipped his quad after hitting some whoops at around 40 mph. luckily he is ok except for a cut on his leg and a few bruises. He gave his dad a few more gray hairs though. His quad has a rear wheel wobble now though, so I'm going to have to take it to the shop.

The WW was great except for a few things. It was cold on sat. night so I fired up the heater. It worked great but when it cycled off for the first time it wouldn't re-fire. The next day I removed the igniter and the gap was huge so I narrowed it and tried it again. The heater fired right up but with the same result. So...I take out the igniter...put it back in.....same result. I did this four more times with the same result. Any ideas?

Then, when we got home, I opened the coach to unload and there is glass all over the floor. Somehow the oven glass shattered on the way home. Nothing hit it so I don't know what happened. I'm going to have a hard time convincing the dealer I didn't break it though.

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We went back to Walker River Resort for our second trip and had a great time. My 14 year old son flipped his quad after hitting some whoops at around 40 mph. luckily he is ok except for a cut on his leg and a few bruises. He gave his dad a few more gray hairs though. His quad has a rear wheel wobble now though, so I'm going to have to take it to the shop.

The WW was great except for a few things. It was cold on sat. night so I fired up the heater. It worked great but when it cycled off for the first time it wouldn't re-fire. The next day I removed the igniter and the gap was huge so I narrowed it and tried it again. The heater fired right up but with the same result. So...I take out the igniter...put it back in.....same result. I did this four more times with the same result. Any ideas?

Then, when we got home, I opened the coach to unload and there is glass all over the floor. Somehow the oven glass shattered on the way home. Nothing hit it so I don't know what happened. I'm going to have a hard time convincing the dealer I didn't break it though.

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Old 09-27-2005, 10:18 AM   #3
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I've heard of these oven doors shattering before, something to do with the glass and the way its installed in the door.

As for the furnace, check the airflow path for something that doesn't belong there. If there's not enough air it won't refire. Voltage too low will cause it too, especially if the batteries are a little low and then there's a voltage drop from the bat to the heater.
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Old 09-27-2005, 03:17 PM   #4
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Geeezzzz WES!!! You better get that garlic necklace and put it around your neck...you need to ward off some RV demons. Wow...you sure have had your share of foo-paws in the RV world lately!

I've had the same heater problem in my old TH...and Tommy's got it just perfect- check airflow. Ther's an air-switch (no..REALLY!)...that if you don't get enough airflow, it won't open enough to "switch" and allow the heater to fire. Another one of those pesky safety devices.

Now grab a cervesa, sit down, and relax before something else goes haywire!!

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Yeah, that one was from my old Motorhome days. These late model TH's never have that problem. (except Wes)
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Thanks for the advice guys. I just checked the airflow path and there are no obstructions. Is there some way to check the sail switch without taking apart the heater? I did notice that when the heater tries to fire, the electrode is arcing to ground where it's mounted. Could this be the problem?

As for the oven glass.....I checked the warranty and wouldn't you just know that the door glass isn't covered. You can't just buy the glass either. You have to order the entire door assembly, about $115.00. I'm thinking about getting a piece of tempered glass from the glass shop, painting the inside black and calling it done. I'll save about $85.00.

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Wes,

To bad about the oven glass, go figure it's not covered. Your idea sounds like a good one, I'm sure you will get the glass installed better than the factory did. I have never had a heater problem like that so I have no idea.

Glad your son is ok, we had a simular thing happen many years ago with my son and a 3 wheeler. It tipped and then ran over him. I saw the whole thing, never knew I could run so fast in sand. He was fine except for a few cuts to his leg also. Oh the pain our kids bring us. I don't have to worry about turning gray, it will all be gone by then...

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Well HD, if I remember correctly, you have to have the fan running at a given speed to make the sail switch, which has to make before the gas solenoid can energize, and somewhere in this mess the igniter is going so as soon as the air/fuel arrives it will ignite.

The igniter, I don't think, should be arcing to anything except the electrode and as I remember the gap is larger than you would expect, around .060 I think.

I think I would hang a voltmeter on the gas solenoid and see if it is getting voltage to turn on. That would divide things and give you a direction. However, since this puppy is in warranty, why not take it to a repair shop and have it fixed.
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Hi High Desert, looking at your picture and signature I have to ask, was that you parked at the end of the second row last weekend? If so I was in the same row but at the other end with a WW FS 2600 and a red Ford Crewcab. Isn't Walker River Resort a great place? I think my brother and I passed your group on our way back to WRR from Yerington-we were the 2 white Honda XR's racing through the hoops on the parallel trails. If so I appoligize if I dusted you when we passed, I hope I rode far enough off of the trail to prevent it-we were racing to determine who had to cook that night and those whoops are a blast at speed. I'm going back there next Saturday for 1 day of riding with some friends-a minimum equipment trip with only a sleeping bag, camp stove and clothes, I hope I don't freeze to death.

Have you ridden in the national forest south of WRR? A lot of great trails but you have to ride on the pavement about 5 miles to get there.

If our paths cross again I'll introduce myself.
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Yep....that was us. I noticed your rig and bikes. I love the whoops there...definitely fun. It's going to get in the high 30's, low 40's at night this weekend.Brrrrrr.

I've never ridden the NF there, will have to do that sometime.

Hope to see you out there again.

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I finally repaired the furnace and oven door. The furnace problem turned out to be a shorting electrode. I replaced it and now the coach stays toasty warm.

For the oven door, I had a piece of glass cut and tempered. Then I painted the back with high temp. black paint and "set" the glass in high temp. silicone for better shock resistance. The total cost was $45.00 for a substantial savings.

Here's a pic. of the repaired door.

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Wes,

Looks factory!!! I'm sure that your fix will last longer than the original WAS supposed to.

Take care up there in the COLD

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