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Old 08-19-2007, 09:38 PM   #1
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We have been considering getting a Toyhauler for some time now that we will pull behind our shortbox Chevy truck. I like the manueverabililty of a 5th wheel vs. a bumper pull, but don't want to have to deal with a 5th wheel hitch in the bed of my truck and the rails that will always be there. So I started thinking about gooseneck toyhaulers. So what are the advantages and disadvantages of goosenecks? Who makes them? I've seen Featherlite. Tell me more. Thanks.
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Old 08-20-2007, 03:28 AM   #2
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A goosneck hitch is usaly not recommed for 5th wheel campers as it puts strain on front if trl acts like lever,Ck out hidden hitch or b+m-B+w dont rember exact brand,they mount in bed with one square hole that accepts gooseneck ball or fifth wheel hitch everything is underneath nothing in bed.
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Old 08-20-2007, 03:43 AM   #3
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If you decide to go with a gooseneck hitch, check with the trailers manufacturer regarding warranty coverage on the front frame area before using it. Some will not cover frame damages in that area when a gooseneck hitch is used due to the extra stresses placed on the upper superstructure caused by the leverage action of the lower hitch point.
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:22 AM   #4
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The implication from your post is that you are looking for a factory-built gooseneck toyhauler. I would highly recommend that approach in lieu of the 5th-wheel-to-gooseneck adapters that, as others have said, can overstress the 5th wheel trailer frames and lead to severe structural damage or failure.

There are 5th wheel hitches that leave a clean bed when not in use. Many of us use the B&W turnoverball gooseneck with its double-pivoting companion 5th wheel RV hitch. This allows one to tow both gooseneck and 5th wheel trailers and leaves a clean bed when neither hitch is in use. More info HERE.

Having said that, with a short bed truck, you may have to look at a sliding 5th wheel hitch to avoid interference between the back of the truck cab and the front of the trailer when turning.

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One other factor to consider is that a 5th wheel or gooseneck trailer puts much more pin weight on the truck (as much as 20% or more) as compared to a "bumper-pull" trailer that typically puts 10%-12% or so of its total weight on the truck as hitch weight. With a 3/4 ton truck, the 5th wheel/gooseneck toyhauler's higher pin weight will likely put you well over your truck's rated GVWR.

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Thanks for the replies. And yes, I was referring to factory built gooseneck toyhaulers, like Featherlite's SURV for example. I was curious who else made them (with a gooseneck from the factory) and what the advantages/disadvantages were of these trailers vs. trailers with a 5th wheel hitch. Thanks.
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Anybody else have opinions about gooseneck toyhaulers vs. 5th wheel? And who else makes them besides Featherlite? Thanks.
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Old 08-21-2007, 05:52 AM   #8
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My 5th wheel hitch comes out and I have no rails in my bed to get in the way.
If you are willing to go gooseneck, then you are more than likely looking at the B&W hitch, well you can get the 5th wheel companion and have no bed rails.
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Another thing I liked about the gooseneck trailers was that they weren't as tall as the 5th wheel trailers. You can't stand up by the bed up front - it's more like a bed in the front of a truck camper, which is more like what I want so that the trailer isn't so tall. I was also wondering if I would have more clearance with a gooseneck trailer vs. a 5th wheel with regards to hitting the back of my cab since I have a short bed. The gooseneck trailers don't look like they're squared off in the front as much as the 5th wheels.
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A few manufacturers will custom-build a gooseneck for their "5er's" instead of useing the standard pin box. Personal contact is the only sure way to know. I have seen some goosenecks with a V nose to avoid hitting the cab and lessen wind drag.
The only downside I see is that goosenecks are required by law to use safety chains. I had a ranch trailer converted to pin box because I hated crawling into the bed to fasten them. I couldn't see the ball when hitching, which meant I couldn't do it alone.
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I really like my B&W companion hitch, but it likely wouldn't work if you have a short box, especially with a wide body 5th wheel.

I've seen a few goose neck toy haulers but they generally looked like someone added bunks, counters and benches to a utility trailer and the tank capacity was quite limited, as was storage. In short, they didn't look like a place I wanted to relax after a long day riding. The bigger featherlights I've seen, though, were different and appeared well done.


I guess I just prefer the RV based toy haulers.

Next time I think I'd just live with the rails and not have to use tools to pull the hitch. Actually, I'd probably run with one of the air ride hitches if I had it to do over again, and I'd have gotten a dually.
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So for the 5th wheel hitch setups where there are no rails in your truck when the hitch isn't in, you have to use tools to take the hitch in and out? About how long does it take to do this?
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With the B&W, about 10 minutes or so. It involves removing 1 bolt, loosening 4 nuts and pulling a release lever.

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Yeah, like Rusty said, 10 minutes or less. It really isn't a big deal.

I always keep a torque wrench and a cheap set of deepwells in the pickup, to check lug nuts and stuff anyway...
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