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Old 06-20-2005, 01:32 PM   #15
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Good point Tom! In fact, I've never used them (had them for years), but I carry a set also...thanks for reminding me!

I just gotta remember to take them out of the hood of the F250 before my friend takes it away!

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Old 06-20-2005, 02:18 PM   #16
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don't some of the good inverters have an automated mechanism for firing up the generator if/when the house batteries start getting to a low point. this low point can be 'set' so that there is enough ooomph to fire up the gen, and accordingly recharge the batts.

so you could toss the deep-12 and hook the ONAN to the bank of 6's and crank the tunes all night long .
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Old 06-20-2005, 02:27 PM   #17
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FatDog:
Sean
And did your WW come with a seperate battery for the ONAN? I guess you just didn't have your dealer DELETE the house battery.
My 12 volt was aquired just because at that time i didn't think of cancelling it when i bought that trailer years ago. So i then realized my error when i picked up that trailer, no big deal, i went out and still bought the DEEP 6's i knew i wanted, and i had what i thought was this P.O.S. 12 volt that i then missused for those several years. But like i said, the darn thing was still running strong and holding a good charge 3 years later. So in retrospect, I really got a lot of use out of that OEM 12 deep battery that came with my old trailer.

Me personally, i would just run the ONAN off the battery bank, and just make sure you don't run them dry while boondocking in the middle of the desert. Fire up the ol' gen when its time to revive the batts, because as you could guess it is probably harder then the dickens to push start a 35' trailer.

And the first thing i thought to myself when I saw your battery compartment picture, is that it is a great solution to what in mine has always been wasted space. I never would put anything on top of the batteries but as soon as i saw that pic i thought 'now theres some good space for hoses and stuff like that'. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mike:

Actually, I ordered mine WITHOUT batteries, but it still came with two of them...I've got a buddy that's gonna buy them from me, along with the boxes. And I will just run the gen off the 6v set...I believe with most inverters you can set the minimum voltage alarm so you don't go below a certain point, because if you think trying to push start a 35' is hard, I'd hate to think what energy it'd take to do a 40 footer!!

Gotta be careful with the space above the batts...I put that plywood top on (and I need to paint it) to keep anything from contacting the battery posts and shorting them out, but in the SLC, the other side of the batts is open to the ground between two frame members- I'd hate to put, say, a bowling ball up there and have it fall down RIGHT under the front of the coach- I suspect even though they're harder than a rock that they still bounce [ouch!].

And speaking of hoses...Howie's idea was a good one with that 5 gallon bucket, but I always use the fittings (one 45 on one end, and the red 90 on the other) on my hoses, so using the stowaway is an excerise in futility- I just stuff mine on the other side of the propane tanks. That way I don't have to man-handle the fittings on the darn thing every time I wanna let some poop loose!
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">because if you think trying to push start a 35' is hard, I'd hate to think what energy it'd take to do a 40 footer!! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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And i think one of the reasons i had my dealer DELETE the batteries that comes with the trailer is to see if they would show up anyway. They didn't.
Because I tried that very same thing with my last trailer, i had the dealer DELETE the radio and prewiring, and they both came.!! No charge.
On the downside to that, my trailer was broken into 5 months later and all that was stolen was that radio that i got for free. Some things just aint meant to be.
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Old 06-20-2005, 03:02 PM   #19
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Mike:

Wow...did the same thing with the POS 12v system...but they didn't include the stereo- darn! But they did pre-wire which was cool...maybe someday will use that- I'm just not into 12v sound that much anymore.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">- I'm just not into 12v sound that much anymore </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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thats interesting, and i've never really thought about that,
but to an afficionado like yourself, a 12V sound system no matter how many bells and whistles the system may have, just isn't going to be a 110V system.
thinking about it, now it looks like i should get a good sound system for my WW too. won't be anything on the level of yours, but i have enough 2nd amps and speaks around the house to put together something.
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Mikey:

With the cabinets they give you, it's easy to throw an amp in the cabinet next to the TV and speakers at either side, and you're good to go man! And if you go lightly, you could even run the system off the inverter! (Did you get one yet- can't remember!).

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">And if you go lightly, you could even run the system off the inverter! (Did you get one yet- can't remember!). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Not yet. I got a book from some solar outfit in Arizona and i'm reading thru it. They have a bunch of "how-to's" and solar options for RV's, and the inverter is an integral component. I'm just going thru all the ideas having a little fun, figuring out my attack plan.
Actually that solar can be a reasonably cheap battery tender, but then, as you well know, where ever a little bit is good, a big amount must be glorious.!!!! I'm reading thru it trying to decide if I am going to stick with my original plan and get just what i need, or have a little fun. But, like they say a dozen times in the booklet, You Can Always Add On to solar. Alright, alright, enough, so I'll just start off with a little robust battery tender system, well,....... maybe a little bigger then just a tender ...
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Old 06-20-2005, 07:21 PM   #23
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Awww, forget it, I'll just run my gen. I spent all that money on it, I might as well us it.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Awww, forget it, I'll just run my gen. I spent all that money on it, I might as well us it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
you know Melon, i said that exact same thing here just a few months ago, when ....i think it was '56 who first started talking inverters, (which i figured leads to solar, which next leads to us all just giving all our bike keys to our kids and we just sit on easy chairs all day and whittle wood and talk gardening) .....
but the more i thought about it, hey! it does have its place. I thought, hey.. i put the wifey and kidlet to bed, and i can sit out in the living room and watch a good DVD and pound down a couple suds with buds, with the gen at rest, no noise.

ahhh, maybe thats why i haven't been real quick at getting my inverter or solar yet, but i am goin to one of these months
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My last trailer we opted to not get the gen. bacause it shook the trailer to pieces. So we got one of those really nice Honda 3k watt quiet packs and never had an issue. Is this 5.5 Onan goind to be too obnoxious to run at night?
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melon:

I was pleasantly surprised at the Onan...5.5.kw...very quiet, unless you're next to some peeps who have extraordinary hearing! Then, what the heck...turn on the 12v fan in the bathroom and let'em scream!

Seriously, I'm not quite sure what I would do with no generator...kinda kill my gameplan with OUR group in the desert...they'd kill me!

Unless I wanna try to put another 6 batts in the coach, then we're just gonna have to balance the gen/inverter thing....hey...1/2 time is better than no time or 100% time, right?

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Old 06-20-2005, 09:31 PM   #27
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Geeze... imagin that I'm off net for a few days and WWFan has another mod. I'm never gonna catch up between you and 56Nomad lets see I have'nt taken delivery yet and I have to install the
1 Inverter
2 shorten the drain pipe
3 raise the bed
4 redo the batteries
5 mod the tanks
6 tweek the storage space
7 mount the tv's
8 make a wine rack...... it never ends does it!

Thanks guys can I just drop it off in Feb and pick it up in aug when I return from Iraq. At the rate you are going you will probably be nuke powered by then

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I feel your pain Griz.

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