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02-21-2008, 05:33 AM
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Just a question to the group about the Titanium/Ford package shown in the gorving.com "redwagon" commercial I saw during the Superbowl.
I just transitioned from a 06 K-Z Sportsman 36SP3 with a Dodge 3500 DWR Cummins to a class A and was a little concerned with the weight capacity of the what appeared to be a Ford 250/350 SRW crewcab hauling the Titanium with a 15795 GVWR.
I was very careful to ensure my package was within limits. I may be wrong and properly corrected but it appears to me the use of a Ford SRW crewcab for this hauler is at or exceeding its towing capacity.
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02-21-2008, 05:33 AM
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Appalachian Campers Fleetwood Owners Club Carolina Campers Ford Super Duty Owner
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Just a question to the group about the Titanium/Ford package shown in the gorving.com "redwagon" commercial I saw during the Superbowl.
I just transitioned from a 06 K-Z Sportsman 36SP3 with a Dodge 3500 DWR Cummins to a class A and was a little concerned with the weight capacity of the what appeared to be a Ford 250/350 SRW crewcab hauling the Titanium with a 15795 GVWR.
I was very careful to ensure my package was within limits. I may be wrong and properly corrected but it appears to me the use of a Ford SRW crewcab for this hauler is at or exceeding its towing capacity.
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02-21-2008, 10:29 AM
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I don't have any numbers for the Ford SRW crew cab, but I suspect that, even if the fifth wheel doesn't exceed the "towing" capacity, it would almost definitely exceed the "payload" capacity; i.e., how much pin weight the truck can carry. At a GVWR of 15,795#, one could expect a loaded pin weight of up to 3,159# (20%), perhaps more.
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02-21-2008, 12:16 PM
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I'm with Linda on this one. Without having hard numbers in hand, it's hard to believe that any SRW truck isn't going to be over its GVWR with that RV.
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02-21-2008, 02:15 PM
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Based on the info on the 08 models, it is hard to believe the SRW truck was within load tolerances.
http://www.fordvehicles.com/assets/p...FSD_towing.pdf
I guess the SRW truck looked better than a DRW in the commercial. Not good for those who believe everything they see.
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02-21-2008, 06:33 PM
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I didn't see the commercial, but I do know, a couple years ago, one of Titanium's "claim to fame" was that they had models that could be easily & safely towed by a 1/2 ton truck. That was, of course, only their shortest model, but it did do what they claimed it would all within weight limits.
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02-22-2008, 03:50 PM
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Several years ago I created a spreadsheet (now lost to a virus) that calculated the dry pin weight of virtually every fifth wheel RV advertised in the U.S.A. Glendale Titanium models were consistently from 14.5% to 16.5% dry pin weight. Then the gambit ran all the way up to 22% for the heaviest brands.
Keep in mind that exceeding a manufacturers weight ratings is not violating any state or federal law. Read the sticky in the towing forum of rv.net for the legal view from LEO'S.
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02-23-2008, 04:34 AM
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Appalachian Campers Fleetwood Owners Club Carolina Campers Ford Super Duty Owner
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I understand that exceeding manufacturer weight ratings may not be a major concern to some LEO's or violate a given states' laws; however, I would hate to be in an accident with an overweight RV when the Lawyers begin to circle above the wreckage crunching numbers or watching in the rearview mirror as tires scream while nothing they seem to do helps to bring the massive rv to a stop.
My lawnmower has enough power to pull my motorhome around the yard but I would be in allot of trouble if I had to take evasive action.
Getting there safely in one piece is more important to me than getting there carrying everything I own. Personally, I have always taken the weight ratings seriously...be it a pop-up camper or commercial airliner.
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