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10-03-2005, 07:36 PM
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Location: Yucaipa, CA
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Wes!
Man...I keep missing you buddy! Long time no talk to!!
The F350DRW Tow Boss is 13,000 GVWR, so I do have some room there. Absolutely no problem pulling it, although she squats a bit in the rear (3"), hence, the airbags. Lincster has mentioned the get-goin' vibes from the driveline, and I've heard the airbags will take care of it by getting the truck back up to it's operating height. But loading it with an available 3140lbs is gonna be tuff...
Sean
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10-03-2005, 08:03 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Grizwald2:
Looks right to me Sean. Now you've got me scared to weigh my little LE3505. Just have to remember these things are ment to have weight in the back of them. Mine rode much better after putting the quads and all the other junk in the back then it did coming home from the dealer empty. Gonna have to weigh mine empty and loaded and see what the diff in pin weight is.
Don </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Don't be scared, us LE guys are alot lighter.
I have a LE3905 and weighed quite a bit less. I posted my CAT weights somewhere on here.
OK, maybe I didn't.
So here are the weights.
On the way home, brand new trailer with full propane, no water, 30 gallons of gas on board and 1 12V batt:
Steer axle: 4720lbs
Drive axle: 6360lbs (pin weight of 2720lbs)
Trailer axle: 8880lbs.
Don't forget, this is for a LE3905. I took a LE3505 and added 4' onto the length.
I have Gel Coat, Genny, 40gal fuel station, 20 gal fuel tank, RVQ, Drive on wheel wells, diamond plate front, bay windows with rockers.
Hope this helps.
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10-03-2005, 08:08 PM
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#59
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Grizwald2:
Yeah I had a great time. Tell Mo high for me. It was good people and fun times. What is the GCVWR of your truck 24? Mine is 22. but that pin weight on two tires.....No way.
Don </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
With the Tow Boss package, GCWR is 26,000lbs.
GVWR is 13,000lbs.
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10-03-2005, 08:29 PM
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Thank Gawd I had enough presence to get the Tow Boss. Very glad I did all that homework, only to have WW spoil some of it for me!
Hummm....maybe if I leave Moski home, I can get a few more beers in the TH and just pea (yeah...I know!) in the wild
(Geeezz....Tom's gonna pea his pants when he reads this!).
Sean
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10-03-2005, 08:56 PM
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Location: Palmdale, CA USA
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OK,
I found the weights of my rig, loaded for a week long trip, 25 gals of H2O, full propane. The truck had a full tank, no people inside and no toolbox in the back. Truck is a 4 X 2.
Truck: 7700
Trailer Axel: 11900
Tongue: 3340
Total Combo: 22940
Yes Sean, we do have heavy ladies
I figure that with myself, Robin, the dogs, and my toolbox, keeping only the 25 gals of H20 in the trailer, I should weigh right at 24000 lbs.
Then if I add the extra 75 gals of H2O, OH BOY... Thank Gawd I got the Tow Boss
Clark
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10-04-2005, 03:47 PM
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#62
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Moderator Emeritus
Oklahoma Boomers Club
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10-04-2005, 05:38 PM
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(See Linc- I knew he'd have fun with this!!)
Tom:
Yeap...she's a heavy one...both Clark and I are VERY glad we got the Tow Boss! Guess my DW isn't gonna get to fill 'er to the gills with water. If I get the Jeep or rail as far back as I can get it, do you think I'd lighten my pin? Airbags are a 'must' now...she does squat a bit, but I think my rear GAWR will handle a 4200lb load- it's my GCWR that is going to suffer.
This little excercise has told me that I'm gonna need to get a Non-Comm Class A here in CA. IF I can persuade WW to resticker (I'm shooting for 18k after getting the 16's- wish me luck), I'll be OK, because I'll be able to go over the 15k RV endorsement limit and all my weights will be within limits. Anything above that will be slight, if at all. So off to the Doc to get him to sign the DL546, then to the DMV to get my permit, then the written & driving tests- ALL before I go to Rasor Road, just in case there's a CHP guy perusing this site! Oh my...
So just how the heck are you?! You sure missed one heck of a ballroom bash last weekend!!
Sean
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10-04-2005, 06:40 PM
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Sean,
I believe that you only have to take a written test for the non comm class A, no driving or physical. I believe there is a post on RVnet about this subject.
It might be easier than we though. Boy I'm sure glad I kept my comm A all these years!!!
Clark
Check out this link: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/dl648/dl648toc.htm
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10-04-2005, 06:51 PM
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On second though, I just read the requirements and it looks like you maybe right. I would still see what the good folks at the DMV say.
Clark
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10-04-2005, 07:17 PM
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Clark:
Been reading those for some time and my eyes are tired- I think your requirements as a fireman might be a bit different. But for my concern, I will need to get a DL546 filled out by my doctor, go and get the permit, then take the rig down to do the driving test, which I really don't sweat...had plenty of practice over the years- I just thought my luck may be running out on me so it's time to come clean.
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10-05-2005, 04:41 AM
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I'd almost forgot about all that stuff in Calif. I've read some real horror stories on people trying to get their A license there, seems they know more than the DMV. Makes me glad to live here! You know, after looking at the good and bad of a lot of states, from taxes to licenses, I think I'll just stay put. I feel for ya. Now go and get that puppy stickered for 18k and you'll be good to go. I'm only over the GCWR by about 1k-1500lbs myself when fully loaded. Doesn't that make you feel good!
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10-05-2005, 07:00 AM
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Thats some good stuff to hear about. Do any of those laws affect transients like us Oreganoes going into Ca? To get to Reno from KFalls we have to traverse Ca on 395. You know we have a few relocates from Ca in our legislature who would like to see Or follow Ca's DMV laws. Sure hope not.
And Sean, since I don't see Fatdog around I'll speak in his and my behalf. If you went aluminum you could have saved 1500#. Yana,yana,yana
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10-05-2005, 08:00 AM
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Yeah, but Gel Coat looks soooooooo nice.....
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10-05-2005, 11:12 AM
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As far as the license is concerned HB we don't need it. Just our own DL is all you need to pass through. As for weight, if any state starts checking that on private vehicles it will probably be Ca.
Out here they have enough trouble checking comm rigs, let alone enough people to check private ones. But, with all these bleeding hearts calling the DMV, asking questions and all that some will start to figure out that there's a ton of money to be had in fines if they do start checking, then we're all had.
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