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06-24-2005, 02:40 PM
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Thought you guy's would get a kick out of this since most of you have bought newer trailers with slideouts and all that nice new fluff, not to mention the added height, and the weights are really up from what I've seen. Since I just happened to dig out my weigh slip from a ways back here are the numbers. Mines a 2003 by the way with the 1 ton dually, in case you miss the sig.
Front axle = 4100lbs
Rear axle = 6580lbs
Trailer axles = 12460
Total = 23140lbs
This is loaded, Jeep onboard with 1/2 tank of gas, trailer full of fuel (37 gal, water tank 1/2 full (approx 60 gal, Black and grey empty, truck full of diesel and my big bu?? in it. Also has all the usual personal effects and 3 group 27 batteries, full of propane and all that. I'm sure glad I have the older model, even if I do have to crawl into bed.
Course, some of us have to do that regardless so I don't guess that really matters, eh, Sean.
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06-24-2005, 02:40 PM
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Thought you guy's would get a kick out of this since most of you have bought newer trailers with slideouts and all that nice new fluff, not to mention the added height, and the weights are really up from what I've seen. Since I just happened to dig out my weigh slip from a ways back here are the numbers. Mines a 2003 by the way with the 1 ton dually, in case you miss the sig.
Front axle = 4100lbs
Rear axle = 6580lbs
Trailer axles = 12460
Total = 23140lbs
This is loaded, Jeep onboard with 1/2 tank of gas, trailer full of fuel (37 gal, water tank 1/2 full (approx 60 gal, Black and grey empty, truck full of diesel and my big bu?? in it. Also has all the usual personal effects and 3 group 27 batteries, full of propane and all that. I'm sure glad I have the older model, even if I do have to crawl into bed.
Course, some of us have to do that regardless so I don't guess that really matters, eh, Sean.
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06-24-2005, 03:06 PM
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Tom,
Your trailer loaded with everything weights almost exactly what mine weighted the day I brought it home EMPTY.
Go figure!!! Thats what 3 slides and nice furniture get ya!!! Then start adding all her cra@ and mine and .....
Clark
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06-24-2005, 03:14 PM
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we wieghed on the way to Glamis for easter everything except water and passengers (me, wife, one 6 year old, one 2 year old).
front axle - 4120
rear axle - 5540
trailer axle - 10800
total axle - 20460
I thought it was pretty heavy but we WAY over did it on the firewood!!! left about 2 nights worth of gOOd fires there for the guys next to us... they were thankful since they had already bought a wheel barrel full from vendor row!!
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06-24-2005, 04:08 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
I'm sure glad I have the older model, even if I do have to crawl into bed.
Course, some of us have to do that regardless so I don't guess that really matters, eh, Sean. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Boy Tom...you just know me TOOOO well!!! And even worse- Moski picked the side of the bed closest to the Porcelain God- so now I've got further to go!
Boy...I weighed my rig quite a few times, but I was never worried about all the different weights...one time going out to Park Moabi filled to the gills (full water, full fuel, sandrail, DH equipment, two bikes) we weighed in at a GC of 20,940. Of course, this was my 1995 SLC3705, and slides were something they put only on the table out of the basement.
I guess now (maybe it was that I didn't know to ask) they can do all three weights on one scale? Tell me about this- what do you ask for at the CAT scales- obviously, you have to ask, huh?
As soon as I get the 1,000 miles on the truck- I'm headin' for 'em...I just gotta know!
Sean
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06-24-2005, 05:18 PM
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Hey man, just pull into a cat scale, pull up on them, you'll see 3 sets of scales with a metal divider between them, just pull up until the front axle of the truck is on the first set, (at the far end) the rear axle is on another, and the trailer is on the third set. Bingo, you are good to go. Just call in before, or, in some cases, while on the scale and they'll weigh you and go to the office and they'll give you a printout of the weights. Pay your money and done deal.
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06-30-2005, 04:57 PM
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Tom: Thanks...is doing that way give you ALL the weighs you need? I've, in the past, done the truck only, trailer only, trailer hooked up, etc...
Sean
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06-30-2005, 05:23 PM
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Hey man, What you do is, in no order:
Weigh the truck, full of fuel. That way you know what the truck and the individual axles weigh. overall gross weight of the truck, subtract your body from it.
Then hookup and go weigh the entire rig at a scale that has the 3 individual scales so when you pull on, you have the trailer axles on one set of scales, the rear axle of the truck on another set, and the front axle on the leading set of scales. This way you get the complete set of weights. Then subtract the empty rear axle weights from the loaded rear axle weights of the truck to get your pin weight. Put all the axle weights together when loaded/hooked up to figure your combined weight. If thats not clear as mud call me and I'll explain it and confuse you futher. The GVW of the truck is the Rear axle plus the front axle loaded and unloaded. That is, when the truck is empty the two axle weights is the GVW of the truck. When the trailer is on, the two axle weights are the GVW then. Make any sense? Wow, can't believe I made it through all that. God, hope its right!
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06-30-2005, 05:30 PM
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My problem is that I don't have a set of scales like that around here. I can only weight combined or unhooked.
Clark
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06-30-2005, 05:36 PM
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Well Clark, yeah, you have to weigh unhooked and then hooked. That gets you all the weights, at least when I use the CAT scales.
Am I clear or Am I not. I'm not saying you are at fault, I'm saying, am I giving you the understandable information or not? Let me know please? Want to make sure you understand. OK?
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06-30-2005, 05:39 PM
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I understood what you said fine!!!
Clark
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06-30-2005, 05:45 PM
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Glad you did Clark
I was worried about trying to explain how to figure out all these weights, know how but trying to tell someone else is a bit?h.
Thanks
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06-30-2005, 07:07 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Vette Racer:
Hey man, What you do is, in no order:
Weigh the truck, full of fuel. That way you know what the truck and the individual axles weigh. overall gross weight of the truck, subtract your body from it.
Then hookup and go weigh the entire rig at a scale that has the 3 individual scales so when you pull on, you have the trailer axles on one set of scales, the rear axle of the truck on another set, and the front axle on the leading set of scales. This way you get the complete set of weights. Then subtract the empty rear axle weights from the loaded rear axle weights of the truck to get your pin weight. Put all the axle weights together when loaded/hooked up to figure your combined weight. If thats not clear as mud call me and I'll explain it and confuse you futher. The GVW of the truck is the Rear axle plus the front axle loaded and unloaded. That is, when the truck is empty the two axle weights is the GVW of the truck. When the trailer is on, the two axle weights are the GVW then. Make any sense? Wow, can't believe I made it through all that. God, hope its right! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Man...we need Howie back...at least he'd give us some pics!
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06-30-2005, 09:33 PM
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Now, if you can't figure it all out, thats your problem. Getter done!
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