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Old 11-13-2005, 06:00 PM   #1
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Well, I finally weighed on my way down to the dunes.
Here is what I had:
1. Full fuel in truck
2. Full fuel in the trailer, 60 gallons.
3. 100 gallons of water, black and grey were empty.
4. My buggy, 2000lbs.
5. Banshee and 1 kids quad... 600lbs total.
6. Full fridge, camping gear, clothes etc.
7. No passengers in the truck.

Here are the weights:
Steer axle: 4800lbs.
Drive axle: 6440lbs.
Trailer axle: 13080lbs.
Total: 24320lbs.

So, I have 2800lbs of pin weight and 13080 in the trailer axles... 15880 total for the trailer, just under the 16,000lb GVWR.. Whew. Good thing I am out of room in the trailer.

My empty trailer had 8880lb on the axles, so adding all that stuff, added 4200lbs on the axles.
My pin weight only went up 90lbs from when my trailer is empty.
You can see how much weight a V8 rail takes off. I drive my buggy in forwards so the motor is hanging behind the rear axle on the trailer.

I was very pleased with all of these numbers.
Later,
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Old 11-13-2005, 06:00 PM   #2
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Well, I finally weighed on my way down to the dunes.
Here is what I had:
1. Full fuel in truck
2. Full fuel in the trailer, 60 gallons.
3. 100 gallons of water, black and grey were empty.
4. My buggy, 2000lbs.
5. Banshee and 1 kids quad... 600lbs total.
6. Full fridge, camping gear, clothes etc.
7. No passengers in the truck.

Here are the weights:
Steer axle: 4800lbs.
Drive axle: 6440lbs.
Trailer axle: 13080lbs.
Total: 24320lbs.

So, I have 2800lbs of pin weight and 13080 in the trailer axles... 15880 total for the trailer, just under the 16,000lb GVWR.. Whew. Good thing I am out of room in the trailer.

My empty trailer had 8880lb on the axles, so adding all that stuff, added 4200lbs on the axles.
My pin weight only went up 90lbs from when my trailer is empty.
You can see how much weight a V8 rail takes off. I drive my buggy in forwards so the motor is hanging behind the rear axle on the trailer.

I was very pleased with all of these numbers.
Later,
Linc
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Old 11-13-2005, 06:53 PM   #3
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Linc,

I bet the tow boss pulled it with no problems either. We just went to Vegas this weekend, got home this afternoon. My Alfa with approx. 30 out of 100 gals of water in the tank weights in at 15,300 lbs. We climbed the Halloran Summit from Baker to Vegas at 58 MPH and pulled the hill from the Nevada boarder up the back side to Halloran Summit at 52 MPH. Everytime I pull with my tow boss I am amazed. Hope that your trip was great but uneventful.

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Old 11-14-2005, 10:02 AM   #4
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Looks good to me. Very close to my weights and looking at your configuration I can see why the differences. Looks like you're good to go.
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Old 11-16-2005, 06:25 PM   #5
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Linc:

Good job...all those numbers look pretty darn good. I've got to get to a loaded state before I make any other changes, though.

I've been dying to ask you this...I know you've experienced the rearend shudder when taking off with the trailer. And I know you added the shims, but did you add the airbags, and if so, did you do it before the shims and did it help? I'm thinking airbags will eliminate the shudder if you could just get the body back up to an unloaded height. Any ideas buddy?

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Old 11-16-2005, 10:37 PM   #6
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I see those numbers that lincster is putting up and it makes me not ever want to weight in.

You know what they say, "you don't weight in, you don't wrestle".

I guess ignorance is bliss, thats why my tranny heats up.

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Old 11-17-2005, 12:55 PM   #7
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WWFan:
Linc:

Good job...all those numbers look pretty darn good. I've got to get to a loaded state before I make any other changes, though.

I've been dying to ask you this...I know you've experienced the rearend shudder when taking off with the trailer. And I know you added the shims, but did you add the airbags, and if so, did you do it before the shims and did it help? I'm thinking airbags will eliminate the shudder if you could just get the body back up to an unloaded height. Any ideas buddy?

Sean </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hey Sean,
Actually, I never did anything to the truck. No shims, nothing.
I am not going to add airbags, just something else to mess with.
I am only 3/4" lower in the back than the front, close enough for me.
I can live with the shudder.
For your pin weight, I would add the bags.

I have read others that have had the shimming done. About 50/50 success. I will just live with mine.

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Old 11-17-2005, 12:57 PM   #8
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by melon:
I see those numbers that lincster is putting up and it makes me not ever want to weight in.

You know what they say, "you don't weight in, you don't wrestle".

I guess ignorance is bliss, thats why my tranny heats up.

Rod </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't blame ya Rod, with a F250, you will be overloaded, especially on the GVWR.
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Ok guy's, Shudder, squat, airbags, Hummm, And I have to remove my snubbers from the rear of my overloads so the rear springs isn't too strong so the truck will ride better when loaded. Hummm, boy, if they would give me a 4.10 or a 4.30 rear to go with my truck, I'd be in heaven, I think.
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Senoir Tomas:

You've got 3.73's? Wow...I'd never be able to pull my TH with those...sure glad I've got the 4.30's. That 4200# of pin weight really makes 'er squat - 3 inches! Airbags and some Rancho RS9000x's are definitely on the list for me. I think that'll solve all my issues..

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I'm thinking about doing Rancho 9000x's also. I get some bounce over certain parts of the road and I am sure it is the crummy factory shocks.
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Linc:

I had them on my 2000 F250- they're pretty darn nice- a lot nicer when you're towing, although the rear suspension on this F350 does a pretty good job in both categories- loaded & unloaded.
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