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Old 11-10-2013, 06:35 PM   #43
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I am also looking at a new 3500 or 350 dually. Right now I have a SRW and it seems fine but I know I am pushing the limits with 24K GCWR. Since we are full timing and will spend a lot of time in it, I am going to get what I want.
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:39 PM   #44
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I have a 3500 dually with the laramie package. It tows my 17k toy hauler fiver easily. Highly recommend. You can get them with the fifth wheel prep already done so all you do is drop the hitch on. Message me if you have questions.
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Old 11-14-2013, 03:44 PM   #45
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Okay I want over a hundred litres for a fuel tank. The urea tanks have shorten the fuel tanks. The short box Ford wouldn't get me to North Bay, lol.
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:37 AM   #46
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Just got the 2014 Super Duty Brochure

2014 Ford Super duty 350 SRW SuperCab long box
Max GVWR 11500 LBS (This is a package order for the Max GVWR 18" wheels)
MAX PAYLOAD 4000 LBS (158" WB) Higher by 180 lbs with short box
GCWR SRW 23500 LBS (22,200 LBS DRW note lower GCWR for dually)

The only significant advantage for the dually is the payload and by the numbers it is actually worst for GCWR unless using a 4.30 rear end.

I don't want the short box only because it drops the fuel tank size from 142 litres to 98 litres and that means nore stops.
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Old 11-15-2013, 12:34 PM   #47
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My F350 CC DRW is rated for 30,000# GCWR and 13,300# GVWR.

That is 6500# more GCWR than your SRW.
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My F350 CC DRW is rated for 30,000# GCWR and 13,300# GVWR.

That is 6500# more GCWR than your SRW.

I messed up, that 16,100 lbs was the max fifth wheel weight for the F350 SRW long box SuperCab, not the GCWR go figure. That is with a max Payload of 4,000 lbs outfitted with the max GVWR package on a long box SuperCab.

Which would do my deal with some to spare.

My 03 HD 2500 ram has a 20,000 GCWR
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Okay the debate is over for me, I just signed for 2014 F350 Super Duty, Dually. I went with the Ford as the long box fuel tank was the largest of the big three, 21 more litres then the Ram long box, go figure.
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To get the best 1 ton you need a ford frame with cummins diesel married to allison tranny. Just don't know where to find one built to these spec's.
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To get the best 1 ton you need a ford frame with cummins diesel married to allison tranny. Just don't know where to find one built to these spec's.
I agree...how about a Cummins 6.7 ISB, Allison 6 speed, and 50,000lb - 120,000 PSI steel Ford frame?

All you have to do is upgrade the GVWR...and here it is:
2013 Ford F-650/F-750 F-650 SD Straight Frame XLT Diesel | See All The F-650/F-750 F-650 SD Straight Frame XLT Diesel Highlights | Ford.com

This truck can come with the Triton V10...Don't know why the Ford F53 RV Chassis in this capacity doesn't have an option to equip it this way
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Okay the debate is over for me, I just signed for 2014 F350 Super Duty, Dually. I went with the Ford as the long box fuel tank was the largest of the big three, 21 more litres then the Ram long box, go figure.
We've had ours now for 2 months, towed this heavy fiver for nearly half of the first 5000 miles. If you experience what I have so far, you are going to LOVE it! Good Luck.
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My daily driver/work truck is a 2012 CC 4x4 DRW F-350 6.4 Diesel. I tow a 21000# GVW three axle dump trailer. Truck doesn't even know the trailer is hooked to it.... First truck I have ever had that will accelerate pulling uphill!!! Your gonna love that 14!!!
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I agree...how about a Cummins 6.7 ISB, Allison 6 speed, and 50,000lb - 120,000 PSI steel Ford frame?

All you have to do is upgrade the GVWR...and here it is:
2013 Ford F-650/F-750 F-650 SD Straight Frame XLT Diesel | See All The F-650/F-750 F-650 SD Straight Frame XLT Diesel Highlights | Ford.com

This truck can come with the Triton V10...Don't know why the Ford F53 RV Chassis in this capacity doesn't have an option to equip it this way
My Ford Has the (5.9L) Cummins (factory installed) and a double frame as well. I noticed in the link above it listed optional Rear air ride suspensions!
And Air brakes With traction control!!
while mine is too old for the traction control the heavey axles and air brakes make its work look like childs play.
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We've had ours now for 2 months, towed this heavy fiver for nearly half of the first 5000 miles. If you experience what I have so far, you are going to LOVE it! Good Luck.
Thanks, I feel better after making a decision and it does appear to be a fine vehicle. I have signed and put the down payment in but have not chosen a colour yet, maybe the ingot silver.
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The ford prep is $500, the drop in Reese Elite hitch is $1100 and no installation fees. How much for the BW hitch?
I've seen it as low as $799. I think I missed that deal and paid $879. You can't go wrong with this setup. I had the B&W Turnover Ball and Companion in my Chevy 3500. It is a great setup for trucks w/o the factory prep but the factory prep and B&W OEM Companion incresed the convenience factor 10X. When I had the Turnover Ball, I rarely removed the hitch, more out of laziness. It requires wrenches and specifies using a torque wrench on the cap screw and U-bolts. Now I take it out as soon as I un hitch at home. You can install / remove the OEM Companion w/o any tools in a couple minutes. I just set it on a timber below the 5th wheel.
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