New TH for family full time

[ShawnKK]

Originally Posted by TXDIANIMAL

I am first time buyer and like the Dutchmen Enduramax 3912 toy hauler. Anybody have one...if so are they dependable? I am also having trouble finding a dealer that has one. I see a lot of their "sport" models but not the 3912END models....when I do find them they ae always sold. Enduramax Overview | Gulf Stream RV

TXDIANIMAL
I love them too! I also can not find any dealers with them. I do know GS had a issue with frames on their units and also heard of some other problems but nothing about if they fixed the problems. If you find any dealers in my area please pass it on. Would love to hear from others about what the story is on them,,,,

[TXDIANIMAL]

I also like the Dutchmen Voltage 3795-It is also hard finding 3795 model available to purchase..it has the king bed/floor plan that I like...it has sliding glass door between living area and garage.

Dutchmen Voltage 3795 Toy Hauler for sale in USA and Canada by Windish RV Dealer

2012 Dutchmen RV Voltage Toy Hauler V3795. King Bed, New Model by www.UtahRvDeals.com - YouTube

[ShawnKK]

The biggest problem with the V3795 and other Voltage floorplans is there is no room in the main area. They put that stupid island rt in the middle of the walkway. Take another look at that vid. Between the island and sofa you cant get by. Be nice if they did the same design as GS and put the kitchen up stairs. I rather have a smaller kitchen and bigger living area myself. It will get old trying to walk in the main living area. Thats my 2 cents worth.

[ShawnKK]

Here is one that might work. Open range with floor plan 375BHS. It has 4 slides with a patio and a sliding bunk house. But once again, you cant have everything you want in a single unit. It has no garage. But I am going to keep a open mind while looking.
Open Range Fifth Wheel Floorplans by Open Range RV

[kevkill]

Eclipse (Stellar) make a 40' triple slide with a 14'garage. I own one, have had it out several times and I am very happy with the craftsmanship.

[soundman7]

Well if you have that kind of money to spend then Excel is the way to go. They are a great company, my wife and had a great meeting with Mr Mr Peterson and really like him and they have a great product we just didn't want to spend that kind of money at the time. I came across the Titanium line by accident as I was searching for a full time 5er for my family of 4.we found a 36e41 MPRV at a fraction of the cost of a new unit. I for one don't buy anything new, we purchased a truck and th for way less than the numbers mentioned above. There is an Excel th in our future when this economy is not so uncertain, just saying

[TXDIANIMAL]

Originally Posted by ShawnKK

The biggest problem with the V3795 and other Voltage floorplans is there is no room in the main area. They put that stupid island rt in the middle of the walkway. Take another look at that vid. Between the island and sofa you cant get by. Be nice if they did the same design as GS and put the kitchen up stairs. I rather have a smaller kitchen and bigger living area myself. It will get old trying to walk in the main living area. Thats my 2 cents worth.

To me, island not a problem since it would be just for me & husband. I would almost "never" use the table by the sofa. I would pull it out and use the island counter & bar stools for eating meals. Then there is pleny of space. Table can be moved when not in use.
I still like Enduramax better including the solid tan material used in sofa. I dont know why they use such ugly fabrics in these things...thye always look old fashioned & dated. I also dont know why they use partial carpets especially under dining areas. Just put in some hardwood laminate everywhere. My personal preferences.
I have called gulf stream twice yesterday trying to locate dealer for Enduramax 3912END and got a recording both times. I left message both times for a return call. I have not received a c all back yet. I also sent email to service email address last night requesting same info and let them know about no return call back. Let you know if I ever hear from them.

[ShawnKK]

Originally Posted by TXDIANIMAL

To me, island not a problem since it would be just for me & husband. I would almost "never" use the table by the sofa. I would pull it out and use the island counter & bar stools for eating meals. Then there is pleny of space. Table can be moved when not in use.
I still like Enduramax better including the solid tan material used in sofa. I dont know why they use such ugly fabrics in these things...thye always look old fashioned & dated. I also dont know why they use partial carpets especially under dining areas. Just put in some hardwood laminate everywhere. My personal preferences.
I have called gulf stream twice yesterday trying to locate dealer for Enduramax 3912END and got a recording both times. I left message both times for a return call. I have not received a c all back yet. I also sent email to service email address last night requesting same info and let them know about no return call back. Let you know if I ever hear from them.

Not sure where you live (state) but I did find a GS dealer in Florida. Not too sure why there isnt many GS dealers around. I spoke to one out of Alabama yesterday and he said they fixed the trailer problem they had. Not sure but that came from a dealer. I was told it would take 6 weeks to build one. The dealer in FL has one on the lot. Was thinking about taking a trip to see it this weekend. I will let you know if I hear anything new with GS.


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[ShawnKK]

Originally Posted by TXDIANIMAL

To me, island not a problem since it would be just for me & husband. I would almost "never" use the table by the sofa. I would pull it out and use the island counter & bar stools for eating meals. Then there is pleny of space. Table can be moved when not in use.
I still like Enduramax better including the solid tan material used in sofa. I dont know why they use such ugly fabrics in these things...thye always look old fashioned & dated. I also dont know why they use partial carpets especially under dining areas. Just put in some hardwood laminate everywhere. My personal preferences.
I have called gulf stream twice yesterday trying to locate dealer for Enduramax 3912END and got a recording both times. I left message both times for a return call. I have not received a c all back yet. I also sent email to service email address last night requesting same info and let them know about no return call back. Let you know if I ever hear from them.

Originally Posted by soundman7

Well if you have that kind of money to spend then Excel is the way to go. They are a great company, my wife and had a great meeting with Mr Mr Peterson and really like him and they have a great product we just didn't want to spend that kind of money at the time. I came across the Titanium line by accident as I was searching for a full time 5er for my family of 4.we found a 36e41 MPRV at a fraction of the cost of a new unit. I for one don't buy anything new, we purchased a truck and th for way less than the numbers mentioned above. There is an Excel th in our future when this economy is not so uncertain, just saying

A couple of people said Excel but it didnt catch my eye. Looks nice but not what I am looking for. I did like the Open Range with a patio and sliding bunks. But not a garage with that model. What little time I spent researching on Open Range it looks like a good one. Havent heard from others about their line.

[TEAMTJ]

Originally Posted by TXDIANIMAL

To me, island not a problem since it would be just for me & husband. I would almost "never" use the table by the sofa. I would pull it out and use the island counter & bar stools for eating meals. Then there is pleny of space. Table can be moved when not in use.
I still like Enduramax better including the solid tan material used in sofa. I dont know why they use such ugly fabrics in these things...thye always look old fashioned & dated. I also dont know why they use partial carpets especially under dining areas. Just put in some hardwood laminate everywhere. My personal preferences.
I have called gulf stream twice yesterday trying to locate dealer for Enduramax 3912END and got a recording both times. I left message both times for a return call. I have not received a c all back yet. I also sent email to service email address last night requesting same info and let them know about no return call back. Let you know if I ever hear from them.

If you can't get them to call you back when inquiring about their product, how do you think it will be when you need to get a hold of them after you have bought their product? Red flag...just sayin'.

[soundman7]

Well if you like the porch idea (see our pic) check out the Titanium 36E41 MPRV. There is a side slide out porch off the garage area with a sliding glass door, the cover/door acts as a roof and has a screen room that attaches, Glendale called it a bug room. My wife & kids love the bug room

[TXDIANIMAL]

I have still not been contacted from Gulf Stream about the Enduramax. That is scary.

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Maybe you can design one without the island???

[TXDIANIMAL]

Not sure where you live (state) but I did find a GS dealer in Florida. Not too sure why there isnt many GS dealers around. I spoke to one out of Alabama yesterday and he said they fixed the trailer problem they had. Not sure but that came from a dealer. I was told it would take 6 weeks to build one. The dealer in FL has one on the lot. Was thinking about taking a trip to see it this weekend. I will let you know if I hear anything new with GS.

Thanks..please keep me posted...let me know what you think of quality, etc. I am a newbie and still like this one the best. Did they have the 3912END model? What model are you looking at?

[RickS]

Before purchasing our TH we looked at many different brands and GS was one of them. It didn't take to long to rule this model off our list. Do a little research on the various RV forums and you will see why. They have yet to contact you to sell one...you may find it a lot harder to contact them if you have warranty issue's.