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Old 04-27-2013, 08:20 PM   #1
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rv tires aka china bombs

I had heard the discussions heres my story. we have a 2011 keystone raptor 3912lev with less than 6000 miles. within 500 miles we blew 3 of the 6 tires the caps came off, like a recap does on a big truck. I researched the subject and I decided to abandon trailer tires since the NHTSA wont do anything about them. in searching and talking with my tire dealer I decided on AMERICAN MADE 10 ply firestones, like they use on duallys. I wish no one the problems I have had with repairing the underbelly of the raptor. still given with most repairmens lack of workmanship. I opted to fix it myself.
so for discussions sake please check your tires if they are china bombs you would be wise to change them before they explode on you.
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Old 04-28-2013, 12:43 AM   #2
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Yokohama LT tires and no more damage. Tried 5 brands of ST tires and they all failed.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:38 PM   #3
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Abneynormal, I'm sorry for your misfortune. I was lucky and had read enough reports about the China bombs, that my new rig never left my driveway with them except to drive to Discount Tire. I went with a commercial LT, Michellin XPS Ribs. They weigh 94 lbs compared to 58 lbs for the OEM ST's They have a full steel casing. I already have 6K mi on them. Rest assured, someone will come on this thread and tell you that you are not supposed to do this.
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Old 04-30-2013, 12:54 PM   #4
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china bombs

I opted for American made firestone 235/85 transforce ht. they are 10 ply and rated for over 100 mph. they are taller approx 3/4 inch. but they aren't trailer tires.
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Yep, we swapped out for Goodyear G614's before our first trip. No Towmax for this guy...
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If you're planning on airing the G614s up to the 3750 lb load rating @ 110 PSIG, I hope you upgraded to wheels rated for that load and pressure if the existing wheels were used with load range E tires. As the Goodyear webpage for the G614 states, special wheels are required for this tire to handle the load and air pressure.

You might want to Google "Goodyear G614 failures". Many of us have had less than acceptable results from the Goodyear G614s. I had 2 tread separation failures within 3 months of each other on 3 year old tires. I and many others with this experience have upgraded to 17.5" wheels and 215/75R-17.5 load range H or J tires rated 4805 lbs @ 120 PSIG. These tires are ~1/2 smaller in diameter than the LT235/85R-16 G614s, so there are no clearance problems. I've run my 17.5" Michelin XTAs on the Interstates in the summer heat in Arizona and west Texas without any problems whatsoever.

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By "special wheels" you mean something different than the ones that come from the factory stamped 110 PSI? No need to upgrade anything there. I Googled plenty before buying and and am VERY impressed with most peoples results as well as my own 5k miles in the first year.

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If you're planning on airing the G614s up to the 3750 lb load rating @ 110 PSIG, I hope you upgraded to wheels rated for that load and pressure if the existing wheels were used with load range E tires. As the Goodyear webpage for the G614 states, special wheels are required for this tire to handle the load and air pressure.

You might want to Google "Goodyear G614 failures". Many of us have had less than acceptable results from the Goodyear G614s. I had 2 tread separation failures within 3 months of each other on 3 year old tires. I and many others with this experience have upgraded to 17.5" wheels and 215/75R-17.5 load range H or J tires rated 4805 lbs @ 120 PSIG. These tires are ~1/2 shorter in diameter than the LT235/85R-16 G614s, so there are no clearance problems. I've run my 17.5" Michelin XTAs on the Interstates in the summer heat in Arizona and west Texas without any problems whatsoever.

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Nope, if the wheels are rated for a load range G tire, you're fine.

No need to be defensive, I was just sharing my experience as well as the experience of others. After all, the Mission Statement of iRV2 is:

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Please feel free to ignore it if you so choose, but it's still my experience with these tires.

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Nope, if the wheels are rated for a load range G tire, you're fine.

No need to be defensive, I was just sharing my experience as well as the experience of others. After all, the Mission Statement of iRV2 is:



Please feel free to ignore it if you so choose, but it's still my experience with these tires.

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I was defensive because you assumed (incorrectly) two pretty major things. One, that I didn't do my homework on how these tires worked for others and two, that my wheels were insufficiently rated. I'm sure you had bad experiences with them but most don't. Every product on the market has failures and people love to post them on the net. The majority who don't say nothing.
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Look, I didn't assume anything about your wheels. I said they could be inadequate "...if the existing wheels were used with load range E tires." IF makes it a conditional statement. The wheels were rated for load range G tires, so the condition doesn't apply.

I have no way of knowing what (if any) research you did, so I assumed nothing in that regard. I merely shared my experience and pointed you to a resource where others document similar experiences. As I stated, if you choose to ignore those failures, that's your choice. I wish you the best of luck with the G614s - hope it's better than mine was!!

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Actually you wrote, "If you're planning on airing the G614s up to the 3750 lb load rating @ 110 PSIG, I hope you upgraded to wheels rated for that load and pressure if the existing wheels were used with load range E tires. As the Goodyear webpage for the G614 states, special wheels are required for this tire to handle the load and air pressure." So, you see you used the word "IF" when referring to my airing up the tires to 110 not whether my wheels were rated correctly.

You also suggested that I should Google which clearly implies I hadn't already.

So, in the end two assumptions. Both wrong.

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Look, I didn't assume anything about your wheels. I said they could be inadequate "...if the existing wheels were used with load range E tires." IF makes it a conditional statement. The wheels were rated for load range G tires, so the condition doesn't apply.

I have no way of knowing what (if any) research you did, so I assumed nothing in that regard. I merely shared my experience and pointed you to a resource where others document similar experiences. As I stated, if you choose to ignore those failures, that's your choice. I wish you the best of luck with the G614s - hope it's better than mine was!!

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Seems like you just want to argue today. Go find someone else to do it with.

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That's exactly what I was thinking about you! LOL. Sorry if I confused you with facts. And by the way, I was just sharing my experience with these tires when you started in on me. Isn't that part of the mission statement you quoted to me?

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