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Old 06-28-2005, 09:53 AM   #1
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The outdoor shower feature on my WW is a good idea. But I haven't found the need to shower outdoors. On my pull WW, the shower compartment is at the front of the trailer, sort of next to the propane tanks.

When I do use the water, I end up with a mud puddle where I'm standing.

Seems to me a sink, with a drain hose running away, is what I need.

I'm looking for ideas.

Maybe a sink sitting somewhere around the bottom of the shower head compartment, with a support running down to the trailer frame.

Needs to be simple to clip on when I'm camped. Just a small basin, maybe a foot square or so. I'd like the assembly to fit in the exterior compartment at the front of my trailer,when it's not installed, for easy access.

So, any ideas on a simple set up? Thanks
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The outdoor shower feature on my WW is a good idea. But I haven't found the need to shower outdoors. On my pull WW, the shower compartment is at the front of the trailer, sort of next to the propane tanks.

When I do use the water, I end up with a mud puddle where I'm standing.

Seems to me a sink, with a drain hose running away, is what I need.

I'm looking for ideas.

Maybe a sink sitting somewhere around the bottom of the shower head compartment, with a support running down to the trailer frame.

Needs to be simple to clip on when I'm camped. Just a small basin, maybe a foot square or so. I'd like the assembly to fit in the exterior compartment at the front of my trailer,when it's not installed, for easy access.

So, any ideas on a simple set up? Thanks
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Burger,

That is a great idea, I'm sure someone will come up with something. I'll do a little research and get back to you.

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Old 06-28-2005, 10:34 AM   #5
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Lets see now, how about a rubbermaid dish pan with a couple of brackets with a round hole cut at one end next to the bottom with a fitting that a hose can screw onto placed in that hole. A couple of rubber gaskets on either side of the fitting, length of hose, good to go.

OR, make your shower hose extra long, run it around to the other side of the trailer, put a cutoff valve on the head, lay down a piece of something to stand on and a path to get to and from and let the water run on the ground, away from the trailer.
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The sink is a good idea.

And yes Sandy, if this thread is still here when '56 gets back, Burger will prolly get himself a fully engineered laboratory style sink setup, you will prolly be able to wash your hands, a dog, and autoparts in it at the same time.

But we have always liked the external shower. We rinse the mud and sand off, cool off on those 120 degree days, and in the HEAT of SoCal that wet ground usually evaporates quick enough. I agree in theory though, the thought of intentionally making a mud-puddle right near the front of your rig does leave a little to be desired.

On a related note, i made a stand-alone jacuuzzi/sauna for our rig and I could probably plumb it into that shower come to think about it. (that would make it not so stand-alone i guess)
I took a water pump similar to what we use for our trailers and dropped it into a 5 gallon bucket and ran about 20 feet of water line with garden misters cut into it. ("Misters".... as in things that mist, not gentlemen) I built a small light wood frame a few feet square, a few feet high, that we put a few garden chairs in, and hang the misting hose above it. Technically its a cross between a suana, and the little water that accumulates at the bottom is our jacuuzi.
When its 120 degrees out, we like water in the air and on the ground. I guess you'd have to be there
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You know FD, out there, IF, I was camping in 120 degree heat I think that would be a superb idea.
But what I don't understand, WHO, in their right mind, would be camping in 120 degrees?

Hummmmmmm, never mind. I think I answered my own question after I thought about some of us here on the forum, myself included
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You guys are sumpthin' else, ya know?!

Mike: I'm curious...why wouldn't you use the outdoors shower to hook your mister system up? There's adaptacators (yes...I know!) you can put on the spout to hook up garden hose couplers, and you could loose the bucket (actually you could send it to Tom) and the pump! I'm assuming you're using the coach's water on this deal, right? Gotta like that suana idea! I think it's a stretch, though, to call the water at the bottom a 'Jacuzzi'!

And Burger...this one you DEFINTELY want to wait for 56 to chime in on...FatDog is absolutely, entirely correct with his take on what 56 will do! BTW...56 Nomad (Howie) is our resident MOD guy- it's just as official as it can get. Sandy is his sister, so she knows alot more than anyone else could conceivably know about Howie!

What a crowd!!

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">...Mike: I'm curious...why wouldn't you use the outdoors shower to hook your mister system up? There's adaptacators (yes...I know!) you can put on the spout to hook up garden hose couplers, and you could loose the bucket (actually you could send it to Tom) and the pump! I'm assuming you're using the coach's water on this deal, right? Gotta like that suana idea! I think it's a stretch, though, to call the water at the bottom a 'Jacuzzi'!.... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

when i first harebrained this idea, i didn't think the outdoors shower would pump water fast enough (in retrospect it probably does), nor did I want to rearange the Off/On switch for the shower to operate remotely from the sauna (still don't) even though lord knows it would take all of 4 seconds to walk to and from the switch.
So i run an extension cord from the trailer out to my jacuuzi/sauna, where my bucket of water sits with my "quieter then WW's" waterpump in it, and I can soothe the troubles away in a state-o-art sau-cuuzi.

I'll tell you, the only thing my simplistic wood frame for the sau-cuuzi is missing, is one of those half moons carved out of the door of it.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">

when i first harebrained this idea, i didn't think the outdoors shower would pump water fast enough (in retrospect it probably does), nor did I want to rearange the Off/On switch for the shower to operate remotely from the sauna (still don't) even though lord knows it would take all of 4 seconds to walk to and from the switch.
So i run an extension cord from the trailer out to my jacuuzi/sauna, where my bucket of water sits with my "quieter then WW's" waterpump in it, and I can soothe the troubles away in a state-o-art sau-cuuzi.

I'll tell you, the only thing my simplistic wood frame for the sau-cuuzi is missing, is one of those half moons carved out of the door of it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

OK...Mikey...time to cough up some pics...this is just only something to behold with a pictorial!

I betcha not only would the shower yield enough water to run probably 100 misters, but the pump would cycle maybe about about evey 5-10 seconds for 1 second- just enuff to keep the pressure up.

Gotta see pics, man!!
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The rubbermaid dishpan with a hose attached was my first idea too. But...part of the fun is in the engineering and overengineering!

I'm starting to think about an actual small stainless sink with a leg that runs down to the trailer frame and some sort of quick connect.

Course, then I start thinking about a small countertop/drainboard. Maybe a scrap of countertop with a hole cut out to mount the sink.

I've seen here that 56 is the man. Been stealing his ideas and passing them off as my own to my better half (she's easily impressed).

I'm still kicking this around, thanks for the help so far.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>But I haven't found the need to shower outdoors.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Perfect 4 the beach(Pismo)

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm looking for ideas. <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
We use a small pallet, if you can find, or make one. Make sure the top platform wood is close together, but not too close, so water can run out. Keep it small so you can store it in ur basement.

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A.L. gives me a bath out there with the shower. Something about "Don't Bring Your Stinky Butt In Here Mister".. aaaawwwwww, no fun..
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Burger:
The rubbermaid dishpan with a hose attached was my first idea too. But...part of the fun is in the engineering and overengineering!

I'm starting to think about an actual small stainless sink with a leg that runs down to the trailer frame and some sort of quick connect.

Course, then I start thinking about a small countertop/drainboard. Maybe a scrap of countertop with a hole cut out to mount the sink.

I've seen here that 56 is the man. Been stealing his ideas and passing them off as my own to my better half (she's easily impressed).

I'm still kicking this around, thanks for the help so far.

Burger </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh Burger...Howie's only posted his 'marginal' stuff (things easy to take a pic of)...wait til he has a grasp on YOUR dilemna!!! (This thread could become bigger than the Moab 2006 one!).

I'm actually thinking something like our outdoors BBQ...you can "clip" it on, a surgically-placed hose is waiting for the docking, and "Wha-La"...you've an outdoors sink- size of sink will matter depending on what you wanna do....(still laughing at FD's depiction of a dog bath!)...

Better let Howie chime in....

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