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08-16-2011, 01:54 PM
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Steep Ramp
I recently purchased the 2010 Canyon Star 3920 (Toy Hauler) and that ramp is STEEP !! It's gotten to the point that I'm terrified to ride the bike in and even more terrified to back it out.
Although the ramp has this non-skid surface the bike does skid and there's a point where you no longer can reach the ramp with your feet so you have to let it go backwards and hope you can keep your balance.
My Harley is about 800+ pounds and I'm not very big.
Anybody got any suggestions for a solution ???
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08-16-2011, 02:05 PM
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Some pics attached.
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08-16-2011, 02:14 PM
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We have a 2005 Gold Wing we put in our Dunechaser the ramp is OK before this we had a 17'Desert fox which had a short steep ramp if I didn't have the shocks filled up it would scrape and I had the same trouble with the angle. What I did was get a pair of jack stands and placed them under the ramp. I also got one of those fold out 3 panel rampsand placed it on the ramp it extended the ramp about 5 feet but more importantly it cut down on the angle.
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08-16-2011, 05:42 PM
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Jim, Thank for your reply. Not sure what you mean by those 3 panel ramps though. Could you explain further ?
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08-16-2011, 06:00 PM
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While I don't have a toyhauler but rather pull an enclosed trailer this is what I do. I raise the front of the trailer which lowers the rear and lessens the angle of the ramp. Now this would be a problem if you part the bike in the unit every night, but it would work well if you only park it when traveling. Good luck and ride safe.
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08-16-2011, 08:15 PM
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the panels were about 2' wide and it folded in 3 sections with chains and ramps to help hold it in place.
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08-16-2011, 08:31 PM
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Dean, I've thought about that. Not sure it would help with this motorized toy hauler. Plus, The idea is to be able to put the bike in the garage at night.
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08-17-2011, 10:16 AM
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Heratige2006
Use your front leveler jacks to raise the front of the MH AND make some wood blocks to put under the ramp door to make the drop ramp angle up a bit. When you back out put the bike in 1st gear and use the clutch and front brake to slow your decent. My Raptor is much steeper and the door is only 6.5 ft wide and it just takes getting used to. Wait till you have to do it in the rain!
Fred
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08-18-2011, 12:53 AM
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Kirk at Discount Ramps is suggesting the RR-TR-7
http://www.discountramps.com/trailer-ramps.htm
Not entirely convinced this will work for my particular set up.
Thoughts anyone ?
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08-18-2011, 07:45 PM
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I have not had a chance to get mine to take a picture for you but again it is 3 panels maybe 14" wide each and about 6" in length so the width of the 3 panels is about 42" when its open I have a link to where I bought them to get the name and find something close to you. Shop online at Apache Motorcycles Good luck
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10-31-2011, 08:59 AM
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After taking delivery of my 3920 I see what you mean about the steep ramp.. The first time I unloaded it I grabed a handful of front brake and it slid all the way down with the front wheel locked up.. Scary!! So when I unloaded the second bike I left it in gear and used the clutch as the brake and it was so much easier and safer.. Hope this helps..
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10-31-2011, 09:17 AM
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I have hauled many customer cycles, and for the safety of the customer bikes and my own, I used a 12volt winch with a remote mounted on an e-track bar. I could walk alongside the bike up the ramp, and had full control. Yes, it's an expense, but for me was worth it to avoid the risk.
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10-31-2011, 10:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sicduc
After taking delivery of my 3920 I see what you mean about the steep ramp.. The first time I unloaded it I grabed a handful of front brake and it slid all the way down with the front wheel locked up.. Scary!! So when I unloaded the second bike I left it in gear and used the clutch as the brake and it was so much easier and safer.. Hope this helps..
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Ya, Using the clutch was suggested to me but I didn't feel it would help my situation much. The worse part is when the bike is on such an angle that your feet no longer can touch and you have to let go and let the bike slid back.
I ended up getting custom ramps made and now it's easy and SAFE getting the bike out.
SASSY'S ON 'DA ROAD: THE ONGOING RAMP PROBLEMS
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10-31-2011, 10:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMRHost
I have hauled many customer cycles, and for the safety of the customer bikes and my own, I used a 12volt winch with a remote mounted on an e-track bar. I could walk alongside the bike up the ramp, and had full control. Yes, it's an expense, but for me was worth it to avoid the risk.
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A definite worthwhile expense ! Safety is number 1 !! Plus, if you can't get your bike out of the toy hauler, what's the sense in having one.
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