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12-06-2008, 02:57 PM
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Junior Member
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Hey guys...
I'm new here. The site is very informative.
I'm torn between 2 differebt toy haulers, mainly because of the weight.
1st choice- 2007 Coachman Adrenaline 40ft 13,800 lbs
2nd choice- 2007 KZ Sportsman Sportster 32ft 9,000 lbs
Price is about the same, but the Coachman is very nice and big.
I have a 2002 F250,TD,CC,4X2,Full Exhaust,SCT Flash
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12-06-2008, 02:57 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Hey guys...
I'm new here. The site is very informative.
I'm torn between 2 differebt toy haulers, mainly because of the weight.
1st choice- 2007 Coachman Adrenaline 40ft 13,800 lbs
2nd choice- 2007 KZ Sportsman Sportster 32ft 9,000 lbs
Price is about the same, but the Coachman is very nice and big.
I have a 2002 F250,TD,CC,4X2,Full Exhaust,SCT Flash
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12-06-2008, 06:49 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Excel Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Hangin' with Sacs and the Pins
Posts: 9,412
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Agent Orange...
Welcome to iRV2! You are correct- this forum is very informative with lots of friendly & informative members who hang out here. Of course- some of them are lucky enough to be out RVing instead of here checking the forums (Can you tell that I am envious? )
I have also put a shortcut to the "New Member Check-In" forum so others may stop in and say "Hey" also.
Good Luck picking the right Toy Hauler for you...and again - welcome to iRV2. We hope you visit & post often!
MM
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*MonacoMama with the 2 Pins & SacsTC Nearby* *2007 Monaco Diplomat 40' SFT<>2006 Chevy VortecMax Toad<>2006 Buick Lucerne Leading the Way*
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12-06-2008, 07:20 PM
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Moderator in Memoriam
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Mesa, AZ, USA
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Howdy and welcome to Irv2.
What toy hauler? Good question, several things to really decide.
1. Is the total weight you can handle with your current truck?
2. what are you planning to put in it?
3. Is the total weight now still under your max?
4. And the real question we found the answer to the first real test of our Toy hauler was, How long will be your longest trip to a destination?
The first 3 are easy for you to answer, the 4th we learned the hard way, I have a gold wing motorcycle and we travel most times for a few days before we get to a destination. If you do that you may have to unload your toys before you can use some of your beds. To solve this our second rig has a garage so no more problem.
Welcome to Irv2 and find the rig you deserve and most important, have fun.
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2006 Dodge Ram 2500 HD Mega Cab Diesel | 2005 Honda Goldwing | 2006 35' Dune Chaser 5th Wheel
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12-07-2008, 02:03 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
Country Coach Owners Club Appalachian Campers Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Chattanooga, Tn.
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Agent Orange, welcome to iRV2,com. We are glad to have you join us here and we look forward to reading of your adventures and experiences. I am sure you will enjoy this website and forums. You have gotten good info and more will come, so take your time in your research. Good luck and keep us posted.
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Amy, Dr. Assistant - Roxie & Mei Ling, four legs each
2000 Gulf Stream Scenic Cruiser 450 hp & 1330# torque
06 Saturn Vue, 06 Chevy Z71 4x4 & 2014 Corvette Z51 M7
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12-07-2008, 05:17 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
Oklahoma Boomers Club
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Sand Springs, Oklahoma
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Welcome to the forum Agent Orange, without looking up weights and such be very careful and research the 40ft'er closely as you may find the 250 will be overloaded. I pull a 38 ft WW with a 3500 and its all I want back there not to mention my pin weight runs around 3200 lbs. Good luck with your search.
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KE5NCP
2016 Winnebago Sunstar LX 36Y, 2018 Wrangler unlimited Rubicon
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12-07-2008, 07:31 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 21
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Thanks guys.
"Vette Racer", you're right the 40 footer is definately going to overload my truck. I should have bought a bigger truck.
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12-07-2008, 07:36 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Back at the stix'n'brix - East End, AR.
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The 40 is too big for your truck. . . plain and simple.
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FMCA; WIT; FCOA; Good Sam; Passport
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12-07-2008, 07:38 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Thank you.
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12-07-2008, 07:55 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: The Dalles, Oregon
Posts: 544
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Welcome to the forum. I've sure learned a lot from the helpful and experienced people here.
Those are two pretty different toy haulers... What drew you to those?
Anyway, I started out with a 3500 single rear wheel Ram, then got a 295F Patio Hauler. I had a lot of fun with it, but getting two big 4x4 quads in it was kind of a pain. They have to be turned sideways. The 1st one wasn't too bad, but the 2nd one has to be turned when half on the ramp, and there isn't room to get good leverage and the tire lugs grab the edge of the floor.
Interior wise, after riding the group generally would end up in my rig watching movies or whatever. Folding chairs and the drop down dinette got uncomfortable after an hour or two.
Anyhow, I stepped up to a dually, and will never buy another single rear wheel. Even with just the 30' toyhauler it is notably more stable, especially on uneven, narrow mountain roads.
Last Friday I brought home a 40' Kit 394F. It has a 14' seperate garage, a big slide with sleeper sofa, recliner, and dinette, more storage and taller bedroom.
It tows pretty good, but I'm going to have to get used to how much wider the trailer tracks in turns.
I think I can get this beast into most of the places I took the 30' one, only I'll be much more comfortable when I get there, and I won't have to turn a quad sideways on the ramp (unless I take 3 machines, in which case the other 2 riders better help load).
I hit the cat scale on the way home. Totally empty and dry I was 4760 front axle, 6440 rear axle and 9,000 pounds on the trailer's 3 axles.
Add 80 gallons of water, lots of clothing and equipment, and two or three quads and this thing would massively overload the rear axle on my last truck.
Anyway, sorry about the long post, but I kind of did two toyhaulers of similar size to the ones you are looking at...
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Kit Patio Hauler 394F toyhauler 5th wheel
Camo 680 Rincon, Green 500 Foreman, Blk twincam Roadking
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12-08-2008, 06:30 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 21
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Thanks for the info.
Yea, a Dually would be better, but I will just have to get a smaller trailer for now. I think I'm gonna go with a K-Z Sportsman 33P. Any comments on this one?
Thanks Guys
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12-08-2008, 10:53 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
Country Coach Owners Club Appalachian Campers Gulf Streamers Club
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Chattanooga, Tn.
Posts: 12,060
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KZ builds a pretty good product. I have worked with dealerships that sold them and KZ was easy to do business with in the warranty department. Like any unit you are looking to buy, it is important that the unit has been maintained. Get on the roof and check the sealant at the seams of openings. Also look for any signs of stains on ceiling, walls and in cabinets for any water damage. If you are buying from a dealer, they should do a pre delivery inspection assuring you that all system are functional and safe. Ask for a thorough walk thru. During this, time make sure everything is working properly. If you are not sure ask the dealer to check or go into more detail as to how and why it works the way it does. Good luck and let us know if we can be of help.
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Amy, Dr. Assistant - Roxie & Mei Ling, four legs each
2000 Gulf Stream Scenic Cruiser 450 hp & 1330# torque
06 Saturn Vue, 06 Chevy Z71 4x4 & 2014 Corvette Z51 M7
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12-13-2008, 09:01 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: The Dalles, Oregon
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I was considering buying a 30' K-Z new. They seem well constructed for the money.
I ran into the Patio Hauler, though, and could pay cash for it with just a bit more than I was going to use for a down payment.
I'm glad I went used. I figured I wouldn't want anything bigger, but that changed after using it for a couple years. I would be looking at loosing my shirt if I was trying to sell a K-Z after a couple years.
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Dodge Ram dually laramie 4x4 w/jake, B&W, Brakesmart.
Kit Patio Hauler 394F toyhauler 5th wheel
Camo 680 Rincon, Green 500 Foreman, Blk twincam Roadking
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