Toyhauler Weights

[Tractor Guy]

Here is my 2016 RAM 3500 DRW CCLB and 415AMP without toys and dry but ready to go camping.

[Smalltruck]

Just picked up my new toyhauler. 2014 Palomino columbus 3400th. Pin weight dry and bare was 2620 and overall weight was 11,920

[Dukerdr]

I just saw this thread, or I would have posted sooner.

I bought our used 29' Weekend Warrior 2 years ago, and the owner told me I could pull it with a 1/2 ton truck. I was dubious...

I came back with a friends truck to get it a week later. I only knew one guy with a 5th wheel hitch and it was in a '95 F250 with a diesel. By the time I was 5 miles from the guys house, I knew he was mistaken (or full of $hizzle). It was all that old truck could do to run 65mph on the interstate.

The sticker in the trailer said dry weight was 5800lbs. On the certified scale down the street from me at the metal recycling plant, my trailer scaled 8500 lbs. 8500!!! That sticker was very misleading.

That's with empty grey/black tanks, maybe 2 gallons fresh water...10 gal of gas in the generator tank and very few clothes. And no toys in back.

I'm no speed demon so my V10 F250 pulls it OK, but there are days (in the mountains) when I wish I had a Cummins or a Powerstroke.

[iowasnowbird]

We pulled our 40' Raptor 5th wheel with a 2006 Ford F250 diesel with no problems, even in Rocky mtns. But that being said we just traded for a 2017 F350 diesel. We went from the Supercab to a crewman. My husband felt with a 900 lb motorcycle and other toys that our f250 was right on the cusp of weight restrictions. Now we have no worries in that department.

[24shofast]

Finally made it to the CAT scale with the new set up and here are the results. I was pretty close on my estimates so it wasn't too surprising. Fully loaded with family and everything for a 4 day dry camp. 108gal water, 30 gal onboard fuel, ice chest etc.

2008 F350 SRW, V10, lifted, big tires
2017 Stryker 3212
2013 RZR 900XP, additional cage and rear seat added.

Steer Axle: 4,200lbs
Drive Axle: 6,160lbs
Trailer Axle: 12,080lbs
Gross Weight: 22,440lbs

[lonewolftx]

Originally Posted by iowasnowbird

We pulled our 40' Raptor 5th wheel with a 2006 Ford F250 diesel with no problems, even in Rocky mtns. But that being said we just traded for a 2017 F350 diesel. We went from the Supercab to a crewman. My husband felt with a 900 lb motorcycle and other toys that our f250 was right on the cusp of weight restrictions. Now we have no worries in that department.

I bet if you check your GVMR for the truck and then add the Raptor GVMR (note stickers on the truck & rig) you will find that your SRW truck is not rated for towing it safely by factory numbers. All tri-axel 5th wheels, i.e. large toy haulers, require a F350 Dually to meet the “legal” towing requirements. Please check your GVWR and see if this is correct.

[U-me]

Originally Posted by lonewolftx

I bet if you check your GVMR for the truck and then add the Raptor GVMR (note stickers on the truck & rig) you will find that your SRW truck is not rated for towing it safely by factory numbers. All tri-axel 5th wheels, i.e. large toy haulers, require a F350 Dually to meet the “legal” towing requirements. Please check your GVWR and see if this is correct.

Right, what a waste since both HD’s are the same. Cheverlot is anyway.

[kskid]

F350 HDs have a different set of rear springs than the F250s. Rest is pretty much the same except the DRW.O

[Sddamm]

Originally Posted by Bill Davey

Toyhauler is 2013 KZ Stoneridge Sportster; No water or waste, propane full, pots pans clothes etc ready for the road. 2002 Harley Heritage softail in the garage, 2 bicycles, etc.

Trailer Axles = 13,260#

Pin Weight = 2570#

Trailer total = 15,830#

Truck is 2012 Dodge Ram 3500 CC DRW 4X4 CTD Big Horn - Max tow option. 3/4 Fuel (about 28 gallons), 2 Honda 2,000i generators, tools, and other miscellaneous stuff in tool box. Pullrite Super 5th hitch, driver in the cab.

Truck alone = 8670#

Front Axle = 4800# hitched

Rear Axle = 6640# hitched

Truck total hitched to trailer 11,440#



Combined total weight 24,500# vs truck GCVWR 28,300.



Hope this helps anybody who is told you can pull this with a 2500 (F250 etc).

Thank you for this. We run a 2019 KZ Sportster 352th13 with our 2010 F250 diesel and haven’t had opportunity to weigh in. Think we will be close with our street glide in the garage to this.

[Sddamm]

Originally Posted by lonewolftx

I bet if you check your GVMR for the truck and then add the Raptor GVMR (note stickers on the truck & rig) you will find that your SRW truck is not rated for towing it safely by factory numbers. All tri-axel 5th wheels, i.e. large toy haulers, require a F350 Dually to meet the “legal” towing requirements. Please check your GVWR and see if this is correct.

Not sure if I’m right but I know ourKZ 352TH13 triaxle toyhauler has a GVWR of 15250lbs. That falls right under the F250 SRW diesel 15500ish lb rating that we use. It was the only manufacturer I found that does this. We don’t have fancy marble counter tops but they nice enough for us.

[slipp]

Desert Fox 24AS
no toy
fully belly of water
4k onan in front
2 btteries
two dead propane tanks
40gal of fuel in the rear
bumper pull
2940 tongue weight
9500 trailer axle.

[avvidclif]

Here's what weights I have at the moment. I have scaled the front and rear on the truck and the HD Dyna was at home which will add abt 700 lbs somewhere. Also the water tank was empty which is another 700. I'm not close to being overloaded where-as the 2009 F350 SRW was overloaded. Same RV.


Steer Axle 4780
Drive Axle 7260
Trailer 11240
Gross 23280

[txtinman]

Truck is a 2018 F350 DRW. Fiver is a 2018 Heartland RW426 toy hauler. At the time of weighing the truck had 48 gallons of diesel, a tool box of about 150 lbs and a Andersen hitch. The TH had a motorcycle of approximately 600 lbs, no fresh water, 20 gal of gas for the generator. My height was 1 inch higher at the rear a/c.

[learntorv]

First, if you haven't used it- the Weigh My Truck app is awesome. No more stretching to hit the call button. And no more running inside to get a weigh slip.

These weighings were of my 2017 Spartan 1245 pulled by a 2012 Ram 3500 dually (crew cab, long bed, 4x4, Laramie):

Truck and camper:



Truck-only:


It was full fuel as I generally fill up and eye/scope out the truck parking spots. If it looks easy, I'll decide to weigh that day. If parking the rig in a truck spot looks hard, we'll head on down the road!

According to TowingPlanner.com, here's how the numbers work out:

Gross Combined Weight
30,780

Truck Weight (hitched)
12,960

Truck Weight (truck only)
9,720

Camper Weight
21,080

Pin Weight
3,260

Pin Weight Percentage
15.5 %

At the time, I was over on the truck's GVWR, GCWR, and tow rating. I later upgraded to a 2018 Ram 3500 (same everything, just 6 years newer). I haven't re-weighed but according to the numbers above, I'd be below everything that I was over. I'll actually re-weigh in the next few weeks... once we stop at a truck stop that is fairly empty on a travel day!