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Old 06-26-2008, 09:58 AM   #15
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Originally posted by Ray,IN:
By design, horse trailers, whether bumper hitch or gooseneck are built lower to the ground to accomodate loading/unloading horses. Lower to the ground means more restriction to where you can pull the trailer.
Valid point that applies to all cargo-trailer based toyhaulers, not just actual horse trailers, and certainly something to keep in mind.

The deck height on my cargo trailer is around 21". To date, I haven't had any issues, but then again, I'm sure I haven't gone to many of the places that others might.

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Old 06-26-2008, 06:15 PM   #16
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dbear, my last stock/horse trailer measured 8" from level ground to floor, which was 1" rough lumber on 2" angle floor supports.. Needless to say, I dragged it over many rough spots in it's day; even the hump in gravel roads got graded down sometimes. I finally re-routed all the wiring overhead, enclosed in heater hose after I tired of replacing it frequently.

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Old 06-27-2008, 03:50 AM   #17
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Wow, 8" is beyond low! I haven't measured to the bottom of my trailer, but I'm guessing it's probably around 12-14".
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Old 07-10-2008, 07:13 PM   #18
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dbear you are on the right track with a tow vehicle.
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Old 08-12-2008, 09:35 AM   #19
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The trailers with LQ are very expensive and can be very heavy. My neighbor has a Bloomer, it is very nice and very expensive for what it is.
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Old 10-15-2008, 07:01 PM   #20
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My experiences in that area are from the sports car racing side - not horses. In 2000, virtually no one built a car hauler with LQ. So, being the out-of-the-box kind'a guy I am, I designed and commissioned one. It was (is) built on a 39' wedge-nose convertible-hitch chassis (it is both a 5th wheel and a gooseneck).

The 5'er is easier to hook and unhook - and may be a little more stable on the road. The goose tows better on uneven ground and allows you to hook up where there is no way with the 5th wheel.

It is still alive and well (although unused, at the time) after almost 8 years. As far as what I designed in:
80G fresh water, 54G holding; Stainless sink, full bath with stand-alone shower;
Queen bed, leather dinette (converts to 36x74 bed).
Air conditioning w/heat strips; 6G water heater. Dual 30A shorelines.

34 gallons of fuel for the 6500W generator;
No LP - all electric; mini fridge, microwave, dual element hotplate, large toaster oven; TV / VCR /antenna;

It is a heavy duty rig - not a travel trailer with a box. Empty it weighs a bit under 12K, and loads out with the car at 17,500.

I went through 3 trucks finding something that would work (the orignal weight estimate by the builders was off by >3K#). We wound up with a F-550 PSD with an 11' Custom Carriage chassis. With the 7.3L and a wee bit o' help, it is an impressive tow. Loaded out, I can easily outrun my C7-powered Vectra in the hills - and getting 25% better fuel economy in the bargain.

Fully done with all the stuff we put on it, it wound up costing about $37K, in March of 2001.

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nice axles. i'm not sure i've seen ones that stout used in a TH before.
and you may have had this in your post, but what kind of tires/wheels do you use?
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They're a 9000# Dexter with 17.5" (I think) wheels - Michelin Energy XTA's.

U.S. Cargo offered them as a $2000 upgrade option over the standard 3-axle / 6,000# / 16" setup.

It's available, I you know somebody lusting after it.

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