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Old 05-20-2015, 08:31 AM   #15
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Looking for my first 5th wheel and pulling with a 99 350 diesel.

I am interested in utilitarian, dual axle, for hunting and "real" work and occasional play. Garage for tools and gator perhaps.

Do I have to build my own?
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Old 05-20-2015, 06:03 PM   #16
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In my research a used anything is better than new...unless you bought during the down economy...I think a Newmar X-Aire, Mobile Suites, Petersen Excell Wild Cargo are great products. Don't think for a moment at a dealership they are versed in quality...check out the GVWR and decide for yourself...if its light then its cheap. Lots of content in the used market at a very competitive price...
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:41 AM   #17
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I appreciate the sound advice.
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Old 06-15-2015, 11:50 PM   #18
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fletch182 has a great point! We purchased our Keystone Fuzion for that very reason!
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Old 06-15-2015, 11:56 PM   #19
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Newmars are great rigs but very heavy. I don't know if they ever made a toy hauler though. Too bad they no longer do 5th wheels. Two axle with dually wheels so eight tires on the ground.
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Old 06-16-2015, 01:23 PM   #20
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I think they all have their Cheerleaders and their warts....
Looking at the campers that they build today - by mfgrs still in business - you're only getting part of the picture.
The camper you're looking for may well have been made by a mfgr that is no longer in business or was bought out by one of the giants like Thor and may have been made more Thor generic.
Some may say "well if they were a good mfgr, they would still be in business!".. While there may be some truth in that - I don't think you can paint all of them with the same broad brush..

I bought mine based on recommendations and research. My research taught me what I needed to know.

My camper is heavier than many of them out there. Instead of aluminum construction, it has a welded steel superstructure. It uses wood trusses as best I can tell.. The walls are aluminum / foam sandwich. Being a toy hauler with a garage capacity of 3,000#, it also has a ramp door that is rated at 3,000#..
So - you may want to consider an older unit if it has the floor plan and other ammenities you're looking for..
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"Regards - Randy
2015 F350 CrewCab DRW 6.7/409 PSD - 2008 Rage'n Stryker 4005 fifth-wheel Toy Hauler - 2014 Arctic Cat Wildcat Trail-XT SxS just-4-grins"

You have a 4005 model year 5er ??? (just slightly tugging your chain Randy ! )

My experience is that nothing new is good, I ordered two of them and now have a used one...
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Well, I thought I would inject my opinion into the mix here...We have been full timing for 3 years now and I'm here to say get the best you can afford. That said do not just look at fluff options but structural integrity. The later is what will stand the test of time and durability. We have a Newmar X-Aire 41CKLG with a true 14 foot garage and fully custom frame that Newmar designed and built. I can go into it more if you like but no one even today builds one like this. True they are not building 5th wheels anymore...should put a light on in my book...I've been to the Newmar factory and watched them build. I've been to the others as well...no comparison to detail or quality manufacture. So my advice is to not only compare new rigs, but to research pre-owned as well.

If you need further advice or direction please don't hesitate to ask...This is a great forum and a lot of information to absorb..I can make the journey fun and informative. Good Luck
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Personally, I think they are all about the same, excluding the top of the lines units like the DRV's that you pay $150,000 plus. I'm not really familiar with them and while I know they are built well my wife and I hate the interiors. No offense to anyone but to me they are built for the older full time couples which makes perfect sense to me.

I did exclude the Voltage due to too many bad reviews but it really came down to floor plans and what we wanted in a toy hauler. Other than the Voltage we looked at just about everything. They all have their units that give trouble, it just sucks to be the one that has them.
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I agree that most may have trouble out of the gate - there are big differences in how they respond to and take care of consumer complaints, so shop on post-sale reputation also.
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