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Old 08-06-2005, 06:16 PM   #1
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I can't remember who just posted about the shorted out
wire which was touching frame member, but I wanted
to nip the bud with this potential problem.

Almost all of the 12 volt wires as well as the brake wiring
are passed through and along the steel X-members of the
steel frame. There were 10 X-members on the LE3305.

The holes cut into the x-members are rough cut and there
are no rubber grommets to protect the wiring.

Over a period of time, there is a probability that
the normal road vibrations will cause the the wires
to wear through, which will short out then they touch
the frame. There are several places such as the rear X-member
where the wires bend sharply, directly against the metal frame.

The holes cut into the x-members are rough cut and there are
no rubber grommets to protect the wiring.

Over a period of time, there is a possibility of the normal
road vibrations to wear the wires where they might ground out
on the frame.

This does not look pretty with the old garden hose, but it sure
does the job.
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Old 08-06-2005, 06:16 PM   #2
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I can't remember who just posted about the shorted out
wire which was touching frame member, but I wanted
to nip the bud with this potential problem.

Almost all of the 12 volt wires as well as the brake wiring
are passed through and along the steel X-members of the
steel frame. There were 10 X-members on the LE3305.

The holes cut into the x-members are rough cut and there
are no rubber grommets to protect the wiring.

Over a period of time, there is a probability that
the normal road vibrations will cause the the wires
to wear through, which will short out then they touch
the frame. There are several places such as the rear X-member
where the wires bend sharply, directly against the metal frame.

The holes cut into the x-members are rough cut and there are
no rubber grommets to protect the wiring.

Over a period of time, there is a possibility of the normal
road vibrations to wear the wires where they might ground out
on the frame.

This does not look pretty with the old garden hose, but it sure
does the job.
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Old 08-06-2005, 08:14 PM   #3
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56 I was just under mine all day today just looking for potential flaws while doing the water tank brace mod and a few other things. It was rod that had the rubbed wire. Anyway I too noticed that they just blow holes in the frame with a torch and pull the wires through. You sure don't see it done like that in the auto industry. I plan on doing just what you have did already. Looks great 56,

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Old 08-06-2005, 09:03 PM   #4
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56, go to "Unbelievable, or maybe not", posted a couple days ago.

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Old 08-06-2005, 09:07 PM   #5
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by melon:
56, go to "Unbelievable, or maybe not", posted a couple days ago.

Rod </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks Rod.. you inspired this one!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by melon:
RANT!!
So I am reading 56s' comments about the "Magic wire to nowhere", when a thought comes to me, I wonder if I have that wire. I go out to the stabbin cabin to check the electric box. I didn't find an extra wire. What I did find was another blown fuse. Now I'm then thinking this thing blows more fuses that Ron Jeremy. The fuse is attached to the fuel pump station hot lead.

The yellow one (20amp) between the conduit and 12v fuse box.
The adventure begins. I follow the wire to a turn along the cross member behind the last axle, then to the pump station. The break in the line was at the turn.

Kind of fuzzy, but the copper colored part of the black wire by my thumb is a dead give-away. Here is the fix.


So, LE owners should know, if that fuse blows, of your pump station dosen't work one day, this might be the problem. I believe in preventative maintenance, I would not wait to fix it until your out in the dessert or in the middle of no-where.

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Old 08-06-2005, 09:07 PM   #6
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">This does not look pretty with the old garden hose, but it sure
does the job. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Boy...not to mention your neighbor's gonna be real upset when he finds his garden hose considerably shorter!!! DOOOOHHH!
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by WWFan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">This does not look pretty with the old garden hose, but it sure
does the job. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Boy...not to mention your neighbor's gonna be real upset when he finds his garden hose considerably shorter!!! DOOOOHHH! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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My neighbors still mad about all the blow fuses he keeps finding in his garden.

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Hey...the old homeowner had a fuse fettish...what can I tell ya?!
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">...This does not look pretty with the old garden hose, but it sure does the job. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

its kinda a coincidence, but i was listening to one of those "Blue Collar Comedy" guys this morning on XM Radio as i drove to work ... and then the first thing i do at work is read this thread,... and i see that hose idea!! .... which by the way is a SMART_A-1 idea. It is the Blue Collar Comedy RV Improvement Winner !?!!
I am going to do that right away.

Like i said in Rod's thread, i got snaked once out at Ocotillo with a gaspump wire that had rubbed itself dead. No fun.

So.... I believe we have the First Awardee of the "Blue Collar Comedy RV Improvement" award with this home-improvement... 56Nomad
..and with the sort of guys we are here ... that is one Award all of us are envious of.
I don't care how many hoses we have to steal from your neighbor's lawn (shoot..why does he sleep so late in the morning anyway??),
or how many old fuses we toss over onto his lawn ... ....
... our neighbors can't stand in the way of progress
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FatDog.... thanks

I knew if I used the British Racing Green colored
hose, I'd have a better chanced of winning
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Congrats on the <span class="ev_code_green">Blue Collar Comedy RV Improvement</span> Award Howie!!

Now with the award money you'll have to go get a new hose for your neighbor!

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Old 08-11-2005, 03:48 AM   #13
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56Nomad, thanks for the tip on the wiring hazzard. I crawled under my Warrior last evening and found I could have similar problems in the future. I have already tied up a few wires with tiewraps and covered a cluster of four wires with 1/2 neopreme hose I had in the garage. The fact it was getting dark and if I got another mesquito bite I would need a transfusion I quit for the evening but will finish the job this weekend.
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Old 08-11-2005, 05:52 AM   #14
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well i will say that some of the ww stuff that i see and repair is alittle on the shotty side,

but all these units must be gone through from top to bottom,

especially the units built in california.

its just one of those things you must do .

i really can't believe some of the stuff i see ,
but then again ( the world is what it is )

my unit i have now was built in california and it took me about 6 months to really get it all corrected.

alot of the stuff is a down right hazard and not safe !!

the wiring not being in a loom and tied up is crazy ,ww is the worst i see for this !

the fuel hoses are something else that just kill me the way they run them in junk fuel hose and let them rub the frame and don't care,

the little carlise tires that we know are junk,

man it makes you wonder .( some of the stuff is kinda changing but its very slow )

don't even get me started on the propain lines.

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