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04-18-2013, 05:27 AM
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2013 Ford F-150 Ecoboost
This is the 2013 Ford F-150 Ecoboost
3.7l V6 engine
3.55 axle,
7200 GVWR
9,800 tow
15,400 GWCR
Looking to pull a 6,700 lb dry trailer weight Coleman
The GVWR looks a bit light, but truck and myself fueled = 5600# hitch weight 856# leaves about 900# for mom and kids
The Tow and Combined weights look good but the GVWR looks very close.
Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks
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04-18-2013, 06:19 AM
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I bought the equal-i-zer weight distribution hitch but haven't bought the truck yet, I'm supposed to close this morning but may hold off, depending on the rebuttal, CBS <><
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04-18-2013, 06:42 AM
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Junior Member
Forest River Owners Club
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We have the 2011 F-150 Ecoboost. We pull a 33 ft. Forest River Wildwood. 8500 + lbs. and use helper springs. We have no problems other than the gas milage. Pulls beautifully. Gerry says go for it!
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2012 Forest River Wildwood / 2011 Ford F150
The mountains are calling and I must go ~J. Muir
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04-18-2013, 06:52 AM
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Location: The Land Of Oz RVM17
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The 3.55 rear end would not be the best choose for towing. The 3.73 would be better. And it raises you weights some. And you can get the 4.10 in the FX4 which would be my choose for towing.
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04-18-2013, 07:03 AM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Angola State Prison - Murder
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That V6 looks scary to me. I have a 5.4L V8 in my Expedition. When I pull my 3000 lb cargo trailer it won't even shift into OD. It will certainly be getting a workout and the gas mileage will be in the gutter. Of course we all expect that.
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2007 43.5' Monaco Dynasty Palace III (All Electric)
Towd: 2011 Chevy Equinox
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04-18-2013, 07:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clyon51
That V6 looks scary to me.
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If you were to look at the internals, i think you would say differently. Think of a V6 diesel that runs on gas. The internals are very rubust including 6 bolt mains with a girdle. It will work as any gas engine would but it will hold up. Know a few people that tow with them and nothing but raves on the performance. Dont expect spectacular fuel economy when towing like any other gas engine either. That trailer still requires a certain amount of horse power to pull it along and that horse power requires extra fuel.
No tuners on that engine either. They are tracable and have been know to cause problems. The biggest thing i have seen is no 6th gear untill 75 MPH without a load. In most cases to fix it, it requires a new PCM and custom factory programming to correct it. This is all not warrantable either.
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04-18-2013, 08:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GuitarLefty
This is the 2013 Ford F-150 Ecoboost
3.7l V6 engine
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You have a typo there. The 3.7L is the ordinary base V6 engine, not the EcoBoost. The EcoBoost is 3.5L.
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3.55 axle,
7200 GVWR
9,800 tow
15,400 GWCR
Looking to pull a 6,700 lb dry trailer weight Coleman
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You will be overloaded. My F-150 EcoBoost with similar payload is overloaded with a TT that has dry weight less than 4,000 pounds.
Ford makes the F-150 you need for that trailer, but that's not it.
Start over and be certain your new F-150 has:
[*]3.5L EcoBoost engine,
[*]HD Payload pkg (GVWR 8,200 pound - requires 3.73 limited slip axle), and
[*]Max Tow pkg (trailer tow mirrors, integrated trailer brake controller plus the regular tow pkg of HD radiator, auxiliary tranny cooler, Select shift tranny, 7-pin wiring harness, and class IV receiver.)
Result is GCWR of 17,100 and GVWR of 8,200. You won't need all of the 17,100 GCWR, but you'll probably need every bit of the 8,200 GVWR if you want to tow that trailer without being overloaded.
There are some things you cannot have if you want the HD payload pkg. That cute little 5.5' bed is a no no. 20" wheels are out. But if you want a trailer towing machine that will tow that trailer without being overloaded, then get one with all the options mentioned above.
On Ford.com build and price, enter the trim, cab, bed, engine, 4x4, and then add the 3.73 limited slip axle. The HD payload pkg and max tow pkg will be added automatically. If you select any axle except 3.73 limited slip, the system won't even show you the HD Payload pkg as an option. After the 3.73 LS axle is in the system, then don't add any options that will require you to change the 3.73 LS to something else.
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The GVWR looks a bit light, but truck and myself fueled = 5600# hitch weight 856# leaves about 900# for mom and kids
The Tow and Combined weights look good but the GVWR looks very close.
Anyone have any thoughts? Thanks
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The GVWR is not close. You will be overloaded. Period. Probably severely overloaded. Your trailer will weigh a lot more than 6,700 pounds when wet and loaded for the road. Using the dry weight for estimating how much truck you need to tow with is nonsense. Use the GVWR of the RV, then use 15% of the GVWR of the RV as the probable hitch weight. That's your limiter - hitch weight. So get enough truck to handle that hitch weight without getting close to the GVWR of the truck.
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04-18-2013, 08:25 AM
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Member
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3.5 is correct
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04-18-2013, 12:16 PM
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You will need a beefed up F-150 and not one with 3.55 gears. The Eco-Boost is the best of both worlds. 20 mpg highway solo plus can tow a trailer when needed.
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04-18-2013, 04:03 PM
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All I know about the Eco Boost is several of the neighbors have one and love it. I'd love to have one myself someday. You may need the deeper gears though. A simple fix.
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04-18-2013, 04:16 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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While waiting on my new 350 to be delivered they didn't want any more miles on my trade so they loaned me a 150 fx2 with the ecoboost....
that lil thing is quick - I think faster than the wife's new 13 Explorer sport with the ecoboost.... BUT, I noticed lot's of side to side when driving that I never felt in my 250 .... AND, it's almost 'cute' after runnin around in a 250 crew cab for a year
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04-18-2013, 04:28 PM
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Senior Member
Entegra Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tuffr2
You will need a beefed up F-150 and not one with 3.55 gears. The Eco-Boost is the best of both worlds. 20 mpg highway solo plus can tow a trailer when needed.
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Just for reference...I have the F-150 Econoboost described (use as a toad with Harley in the eight foot bed). You won't get 20+ mpg unless driving 55 on level road. Expect 17-18 unloaded.
As to pulling...I really like my F-150, but I'd be concerned about pulling too much ... and I can't believe you'd get any better than 10 mpg, if that.
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04-18-2013, 07:35 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Palm Coast Florida
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Car and Driver list the F-150 eco-boost zero to 60 time at 6.2 seconds.
By comparision:
Ram 1500 5.7 hemi - 6.8 seconds
F-150 5.0 - 6.9 seconds
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04-18-2013, 07:39 PM
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Junior Member
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How far are you planning to go? We had the Ford F150 ecoboost with the max payload package. We thought it would be fine with a 8500 pound trailer behind us. However, we had problems with sway. My husband called the hitch manufacturer, and fiddled with the hitch. It got better, but it wasn't great. He finally took it down to the grain elevator to get it weighed. We were 50 lbs from being overloaded. Since we bought the RV to go everywhere (we've towed the RV 7,000 miles & 14 states in our first year), we decided it was pushing way too close to the limits. We traded it in for a F350.
We would have kept the truck if we were planning to stay in the state, but it wasn't worth the risk for going cross country. It really depends on how you want to use it.
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