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11-06-2018, 02:40 PM
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KZ RV Club Outdoors RV Owners Club Entegra Owners Club
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2018 Ford F150 towing a 10000lb trailer
Any one pulling a 10000 lb Travel trailer with this truck? Not sue I believe the numbers. If so how does it pull.
3.5L EcoBoost
375 horsepower.
470 lb.-ft. of torque,
3,270-lb. max. payload
13,200 lbs. max. towing capacity
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11-06-2018, 03:45 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Alberta, Canada
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As an RV tech I have seen many peoples haul 10000 lb. trailers with half tons. However, the question is do you really want to put your truck at pretty much maximum effort hauling this trailer. It is hard on the truck. It also depends how often you pull the trailer. If it is short trips a few times a year I don't see a problem with that. If you are doing allot of long distance trips I personally would use at least a 3/4 ton truck for that size trailer. I also would not personally haul anything over 8000 lbs. with a half ton. But this is just my opinion. It all comes down to how much you want to push your truck.
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11-06-2018, 03:51 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Palm Coast Florida
Posts: 12,995
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You can watch FTL (Fast Lane Trucks) on YouTube. They tow 10,000lbs up the Ike Gauntlet with the slightly older F-150 3.5 Eco-Boost engine. They however are towing a cargo trailer and not a Outdoor RV.
I am looking at trailers that have a GVWR of 10,000lbs and I picked a F-250.
Do a YouTube search on "F-150 and F-250 towing a trailer". You will find a person that says he is towing 7,000 - 7,500lb travel trailer up the same mountain with the older eco-boost one time and a F-250 the next day...or maybe it is the F-250 on the 1st day.
If you insist on towing a 10,000lb trailer with a 1/2 ton truck at higher elevations the Ford F-150 3.5 Eco-Boost is the best truck out there.
A few months ago another member had an ORV 'Help me buy my next truck'. He ended up with a Ram diesel 2500.
The F-150 is going to be redesigned for the 2020 model year. Just my guess, more high strength steal or ultra high strength steel will be used in the frame. And maybe the wheelbase will be increased.
I know there are members that are thinking the new redesigned 2019 Chevy with the heavy duty towing package will be able to tow 8,000lbs comfortably. I can believe it will.
The towing degree of comfort is really a question. I believe the new 3.5 eco-boost will have plenty or power but question how stable the truck will be.
Remember when Ford says 11,200lbs towing they are talking about a flatbed trailer with bricks. Not a camper trailer that has much more aerodynamic drag plus big flat sides to catch the wind.
It will be interesting to see what other members say.
Good luck
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11-06-2018, 03:51 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 3,165
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EarlACO
Any one pulling a 10000 lb Travel trailer with this truck? Not sue I believe the numbers. If so how does it pull.
3.5L EcoBoost
375 horsepower.
470 lb.-ft. of torque,
3,270-lb. max. payload
13,200 lbs. max. towing capacity
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If you live in Florida and don't intend to go out of state, go for it. Flat country.
If you intend to go mountain driving forget about.
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11-06-2018, 05:17 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: "Murvul", TN
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EarlACO
Any one pulling a 10000 lb Travel trailer with this truck? Not sue I believe the numbers. If so how does it pull.
3.5L EcoBoost
375 horsepower.
470 lb.-ft. of torque,
3,270-lb. max. payload
13,200 lbs. max. towing capacity
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Are those ^^^^ the actual numbers on YOUR truck....or are those numbers from a brochure or website. You need to check the payload sticker on the driver side door post and see what YOUR actual number are! I've not seen many F150s with more than 1700-2100 lb of payload unless it is the MaxPayload option on the truck.....and even then they usually top out about 2700 lbs.
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11-07-2018, 03:45 PM
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Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Moorpark, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xrated
Are those ^^^^ the actual numbers on YOUR truck....or are those numbers from a brochure or website. You need to check the payload sticker on the driver side door post and see what YOUR actual number are! I've not seen many F150s with more than 1700-2100 lb of payload unless it is the MaxPayload option on the truck.....and even then they usually top out about 2700 lbs.
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^^^This^^^
Looks like you're quoting the brochure numbers. For example, the 3200lb payload capacity is on a reg cab, 4x2 6.5' bed with max tow and heavy duty payload package that gives you the 3.73 ratio and upgraded suspension, etc.
I have been researching the same thing and there are very, very few F150s out there on dealer lots that even have the HD payload package. When you option in a SuperCrew XLT you may get a 2000 lb payload with the HD payload package, with the GVWR of 7850#.
I've been to 3 dealers here in SoCal and none had HD pack. They do have some with max trailer tow package with gets you the 3.55 ratio and upgrades, but even on lightly optioned XLTs the payload was 1700-1800lbs max. The more options on the truck, the less payload, and with a 10,000lb trailer, payload is going to be your limiting factor because you're looking at a hitch weight of over 1100+ lbs.
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11-07-2018, 05:54 PM
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Location: Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dmatt13
^^^This^^^
Looks like you're quoting the brochure numbers. For example, the 3200lb payload capacity is on a reg cab, 4x2 6.5' bed with max tow and heavy duty payload package that gives you the 3.73 ratio and upgraded suspension, etc.
I have been researching the same thing and there are very, very few F150s out there on dealer lots that even have the HD payload package. When you option in a SuperCrew XLT you may get a 2000 lb payload with the HD payload package, with the GVWR of 7850#.
I've been to 3 dealers here in SoCal and none had HD pack. They do have some with max trailer tow package with gets you the 3.55 ratio and upgrades, but even on lightly optioned XLTs the payload was 1700-1800lbs max. The more options on the truck, the less payload, and with a 10,000lb trailer, payload is going to be your limiting factor because you're looking at a hitch weight of over 1100+ lbs.
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You'll get 2300-2400+ with HDPP XLT. I've seen the door stickers to back it up.
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11-08-2018, 10:32 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio USA
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You're getting good advice in the above posts. Circumstances drive borderline decisions for me. Are you pushing the truck to it's limits? Pretty close if not exceeding them by the time you get everything loaded in the trailer, truck bed and cab. Will you be okay going to the state park 20-40 miles from your house a few times a year? Most likely. Are you going to wish you had more truck like a F250 when you take it through some mountains or get caught on the highway in higher wind conditions with a lot of semi traffic. You betcha.
So it comes down to your comfort level, your experience level and your confidence level in driving while towing and lastly your acceptable safety margin for the unexpected. If you have to stop quickly or take evasive action to miss a vehicle or deer that suddenly appears in your lane, is the truck going to handle having 10k behind it as well as the bigger truck? Nope.
Might never happen depending on how often you tow, how far you go and where you go. I've towed a lot and if you tow enough, it will happen at some point. For me, I want a capability safety cushion.
My trailer GVWR is 11,194 lbs. It weighed 7606 empty and now weighs 9650 loaded. I went with the 3/4 ton in my signature with a 13,500 rating and it rides like a champ. I feel confident and comfortable driving it wherever we go. Brought it home on a Friday through two cities rush hour and pulled in the driveway smiling and happy as could be with the way it handled.
Best of luck whichever way you decide to go.
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11-10-2018, 12:06 AM
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Senior Member
Forest River Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EarlACO
Any one pulling a 10000 lb Travel trailer with this truck? Not sue I believe the numbers. If so how does it pull.
3.5L EcoBoost
375 horsepower.
470 lb.-ft. of torque,
3,270-lb. max. payload
13,200 lbs. max. towing capacity
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Go to f150forum.com. This forum is awesome about RV advice (lots of great advice above) but if you want truck specific information from owners of the EB you are looking at go to the link I posted above. I've seen several members there who pull light 5th wheels with their EBs so it can be done. Should it be is a different story but they were legal.
I own an 09 5.4L and it can tow my 6000# TT all day long with no issue. My tow rating is just over 10k# with the 3.73 axles but the limiting factor on the F150 is the payload. To get some of the payloads listed above you are getting a very basic F150 4x2. There's nothing wrong with that but I DD mine and enjoy a lot of the options mine came with. YMMV based on personal tastes.
Personally if I were looking at moving up to that much weight I would look at an F250 gasser just because of the payload. If I were towing on extended trips I would look for a good used 2012+ diesel for the fuel economy and extra power. But that's just me.
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11-10-2018, 11:22 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
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I pull a Jayco 29 RLDS with a 2018 F150 3.5L Ecoboost, Trailer Tow package. Truck has a 1932 lb. payload capacity. I have added LT tires as well.
Trailer weighs 8270 loaded with a 1400 lb tongue weight with no water on board. I use a Propride hitch. With 160 lbs of batteries on the trailer A frame. I am pushing the load limits of the truck. It is just fine for the 100 mile trip to the state park. The 3500 mile round trip to SD last summer, no so much. F250 would have been much better I believe.
Get a 3/4 ton. I would if I was doing it over again.
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11-10-2018, 12:52 PM
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11-10-2018, 07:10 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Liberty, NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dmatt13
Looks like you're quoting the brochure numbers. For example, the 3200lb payload capacity is on a reg cab, 4x2 6.5' bed with max tow and heavy duty payload package that gives you the 3.73 ratio and upgraded suspension, etc.
I have been researching the same thing and there are very, very few F150s out there on dealer lots that even have the HD payload package.
I've been to 3 dealers here in SoCal and none had HD pack.
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Ahhh yes, the Ford HD Maxx Tow package, the mystical unicorn of the truck world. The 1/2 ton pickup that, if located, costs as much as a 3/4 ton diesel.
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11-10-2018, 08:50 PM
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Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Moorpark, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dropthejacks
Ahhh yes, the Ford HD Maxx Tow package, the mystical unicorn of the truck world. The 1/2 ton pickup that, if located, costs as much as a 3/4 ton diesel.
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Hard to find yes, but a "unicorn"??? And, you can always order one.
MSRP of $54,595 is about the norm for any of the new 1/2 ton SCREWs, $44,990 after all discounts. You can't touch a 1/2 ton diesel for that price, let alone a 3/4. https://www.kimbercreekford.com/vehi...mn-id-26734735
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11-10-2018, 09:36 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
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Hi Earl, advice prior has been good but I'll add one item that hasn't been stated. I drive a 2016 3.5EB Max Tow Package pulling 7200lbs fully loaded TT. I've been across the US north and south up and down high mountain passes with NO issues. One hand on steering wheel and other with coffee cup. However... I'm likely pulling over sooner than F250/350 in cross winds and certain I'm leaning on my little V6 harder than the big boys with their power stroke engines. Agree with others 10K load puts you in F250 range and you will be happy with your decision.
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