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Old 08-22-2016, 04:48 PM   #211
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We have a 40 gallon gray water tank and it fills after about 4 days so figure about 5 gallons per person per day. You could get by using less but we like our showers...Navy showers.
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Noisy water pump Had same problem check out location of pump and follow line to be sure they are not vibrating against wall of cabinate. Sound like a drum. insulated mine w/foam and noise reduuced considerbly
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Old 08-26-2016, 01:31 PM   #213
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This is not really pertinent to the thread(?), but I was wondering if anyone here tows with a 2x4 as opposed to a 4x4?

I am in the process of narrowing down my choice of TV and and would like to hear the pros and cons of 4x2 versus 4x4. I realize that a 4x2 is rated to tow a higher weight but would like opinions with all options and trucks being equal.

The reason for posting this question here as opposed to the towing forum is I am currently looking at the Winni towables and figured the people here could best answer the question.

Thanks in advance for all of your help.


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Old 08-26-2016, 01:51 PM   #214
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This is not really pertinent to the thread(?), but I was wondering if anyone here tows with a 2x4 as opposed to a 4x4?

I am in the process of narrowing down my choice of TV and and would like to hear the pros and cons of 4x2 versus 4x4. I realize that a 4x2 is rated to tow a higher weight but would like opinions with all options and trucks being equal.

The reason for posting this question here as opposed to the towing forum is I am currently looking at the Winni towables and figured the people here could best answer the question.

Thanks in advance for all of your help.


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We tow a Minnie Winnie 2101DS with a 2014 RAM V6 8 speed 3.21 rear end 4x2. We have towed from the sea shore through the mountains of Colorado at over 11,000'. No problems. Considering upgrading the truck to a V8 because we are thinking about a Minnie 2201DS. The only reason that you might need a 4x4 is if you regularly towed in the mud, snow, or up rugged mountain trails where you need all of the traction you could get.
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I have a Ford F-150 4x4 that I tow with. I rarely need the 4x4 but occasionally I can find myself twisted up backing into a gravel campsite on a grade. 4x4 is very convenient when you need it but I don't know if it's worth the extra $3-4,000. I did get my Dodge Ram 4x2 stuck in my own back yard one time but that's another story.
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Thanks for the replies. That is pretty much what I thought but just wanted other real life examples.

My first long trip is currently being planned to go out west to Yellowstone and the Grand Tetons and I just wanted to be sure.

Now to get my Minnie.


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We upgraded to a 2x4 V8 "work truck" last year. If you don't need all the bells, whistles, apps and chrome - ask the dealer for a work truck. Ours has a tow package, mirrors that extend, 11,000 pound capacity, 8 foot bed, 4 doors, 6.2 V8. We got it for less $ than the less powerful model that had all the bling added on.
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You do not need 4 x 4 very often if you are careful. If you are not camping in rugged parts of the country of late or early in a camping season you do not need 4 x 4.

I used my 4 x 4 one time and it still did not help. I still got stuck. Remember you are towing, if you get into soft wet grass / mud you are dead in the water even with 4 x 4.

I know they make 4 x 2 with a locking rear diff. That would be my choice.
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I have a 2500 2x4 and have never needed 4x4. Also tow a boat on slippery ramps and our tractor on occasion.
Most 2500s and 3500s have limited slip rear diffs and with the weight of a TT on the back it's a non-issue.

A 2x4 is lower, so easier to get in and out, lower center of gravity and a slightly better ride.
You also have less maintenance and steering issues. (Google death wobble). 2x4 is also cheaper to buy.

4x4 is great when you need it. If I lived farther north, I would probably think about it.
One of the things I've read people really like is the ability to use low rage when maneuvering, but I've never seen the need. Also would never use low range on hard surfaces.
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I get to buy a new truck every 14 years whether I need it or not. When my wife gave me the "go get one" pass, I sort of got exactly what I wanted. I'm sure I'll need 4x4 sometime during the next 14 years.
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One more thought: a 4x4 with open differentials is really only a 1 wheel drive or 2 wheel drive when in 4x4. A 2x4 with limited slip or locking diff. is always 2wd.
You will really notice this in daily driving, especially in rain.

I would NOT get a 2wd unless it had a limited slip diff!
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Thanks to all for the helpful answers to my question. I really appreciate the help.

The truck I am looking at is a 2016 Ford SuperCrew with the 3.5 EcoBoost engine. Truck is not what I would call loaded with all the bells and whistles but has what I believe to be all of the options to be a very good tow vehicle.

3.55 Electronic Lock RR axle
2000 lb. payload. (just the wife and I)
Max Trailer Tow Package
Brake Controller
36 Gal fuel tank($$$$$$)
Rear view camera

The best part of the whole thing, at least to me. The truck is priced at 30K. The only thing I may consider adding from the dealer are the running boards. Us old folks need all the help we can get getting into and out of vehicles.



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Pappi, that is an excellent truck for towing any of the Minnie Winnies. You'll be happy with that 36 gallon tank too.
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My "work truck" F-250 Super Duty was about $1000 more.
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