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10-31-2016, 09:56 PM
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Jayco Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 60
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Are you over your cargo carrying capacity?
For some unknown reason, I never really did the math on this point.
But today, I looked at the yellow sticker on our Whitehawk and was a bit surprised to see its cargo carrying capacity is only 1204 lbs!
I fear we are over and I suppose we need to get it weighed to know for sure. Am I the only person who worries about stuff like this? LOL
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10-31-2016, 10:06 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
Join Date: May 2015
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Not if you are smart and care about your safety and that of those around you!
Yes, weigh your RV! Adjust your cargo placement as needed (or your cargo, period) until your weight is below rated. CAT scales are available at many truck stops and are very easy to use; they will tell you front and rear axle as well as overall weight. You have to hunt a bit more to find 4 corner weighing.
I posted a lengthy analysis of our weight experience, on the Newmar Owners forum. Our CCC is not much more than yours. We now have a lot of empty storage areas, but our weight is within our rated limit. And I thank God I paid attention to someone else who posted about the importance of weighing your RV!
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11-01-2016, 08:42 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Oregon
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I don't worry about it but that's because I have 4200lbs of CCC. CCC is my peat peave when looking at RV's. That and water tank capacity.
Maybe up grade your tires if you can. If you have 14" then see if 15" will fit or even upgrade from a C to a D rated tire.
Remember though that your tongue weight comes off the loaded weight. So if your TT weighs 6000lbs loaded then minus say 600lbs for tongue weight. That means you only have 5400lbs on the axles.
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11-01-2016, 09:54 AM
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Member
Jayco Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 60
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cumminsfan
I don't worry about it but that's because I have 4200lbs of CCC. CCC is my peat peave when looking at RV's. That and water tank capacity.
Maybe up grade your tires if you can. If you have 14" then see if 15" will fit or even upgrade from a C to a D rated tire.
Remember though that your tongue weight comes off the loaded weight. So if your TT weighs 6000lbs loaded then minus say 600lbs for tongue weight. That means you only have 5400lbs on the axles.
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Thanks. Good point on the tongue weight. And yes we have been considering a tire upgrade.
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11-01-2016, 09:06 PM
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Member
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 71
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Drove over 4 million miles, semi's. Weights always a big deal. We have bought a Ram 1500 rated at 8000 lbs for the TT. Looks like we will need to upgrade rears from 3.21 to 3.92. I want to tow a TT in low 8'k. Like a cushion for safety margin. Talked to Ram dlr, getting price on the ration switch and am going to make sure trans cooler is sized right. Those are the only differences in the 2 ratings. should have spent less time arguing price and more time reading spec sheet. I really am surprised at all of the RV'rs that seem to think that these numbers don't matter. A lot of attitude that if I can afford it, I can pull it. Kind of scary. Told my first mate that we roll safe or we don't roll. A few extra dollars for the "right stuff" is worth it to us. Be safe.
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11-02-2016, 02:21 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Currently; SW Cali. Sunny & warm!
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In answer to your question. No, Thanks for asking though. I can usually tell you within a couple hundred lbs. where we're at.
I probably worry more about the other folks out there that are not concerned about such things.
It's not that difficult to weigh yourself, plus there's even a smartphone app. to aid you. Many locations are even equipped so you can pay, and send results to your smartphone app.
Don't be intimidated by the truck stops.
https://catscale.com/how-to-weigh/
Flock south Y'all.
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11-02-2016, 02:55 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
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NO...........YES
I know exactly what actual weights are because I weighed trucked and 5th wheel loaded up 'camp ready'
Truck when hooked up I am over on GVWR but not over on RAWR or Rear Tire Max Load Ratings
5vr I am under GVWR by 650# ---under axle rantings/tire load ratings
AND under GCVWR
We FTd for 7 yrs and on anniversary of each year on the road we got weighed
After 1st and some basic 'concepts' we had no issues staying under weight
LESS is MORE (you really don't need all that stuff..the basics are more then enough)
1 bag of stuff in then 2 bags out--that way you don't end up with crap stuffed here/there (mashed pennies take up very little room in their albums and make great keepsakes)
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11-02-2016, 10:47 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,536
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Old-Biscuit
NO...........YES
I know exactly what actual weights are because I weighed trucked and 5th wheel loaded up 'camp ready'
Truck when hooked up I am over on GVWR but not over on RAWR or Rear Tire Max Load Ratings
5vr I am under GVWR by 650# ---under axle rantings/tire load ratings
AND under GCVWR
We FTd for 7 yrs and on anniversary of each year on the road we got weighed
After 1st and some basic 'concepts' we had no issues staying under weight
LESS is MORE (you really don't need all that stuff..the basics are more then enough)
1 bag of stuff in then 2 bags out--that way you don't end up with crap stuffed here/there (mashed pennies take up very little room in their albums and make great keepsakes)
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So, your truck is overloaded.
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11-05-2016, 05:22 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 2
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Cost of weighing trailer and tv
I'm a new tt owner and would like to get my trailer and vehicled weighed is there a large fee for this and can you weigh tv then tt and then both ? Do you just show up to the scale or do you make an appointment,
Thanks Charlie
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11-15-2016, 09:42 PM
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Senior Member
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Roseville, CA
Posts: 598
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefbat9
I'm a new tt owner and would like to get my trailer and vehicled weighed is there a large fee for this and can you weigh tv then tt and then both ? Do you just show up to the scale or do you make an appointment,
Thanks Charlie
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No appointments needed, you can weigh together, separate or however you choose to do it. Last time it cost me $12!
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11-25-2016, 10:00 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,846
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I don't know about where you live but in Oregon we have lots of weigh stations that are open 24/7. The scales are always on and you can pull in and weigh each axle. I have even dropped the trailer off and weighed just the hitch weight. Never had a problem never had anybody else pull in that I would be holding up.
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11-25-2016, 10:04 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 1,846
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sejac55
Drove over 4 million miles, semi's. Weights always a big deal. We have bought a Ram 1500 rated at 8000 lbs for the TT. Looks like we will need to upgrade rears from 3.21 to 3.92. I want to tow a TT in low 8'k. Like a cushion for safety margin. Talked to Ram dlr, getting price on the ration switch and am going to make sure trans cooler is sized right. Those are the only differences in the 2 ratings. should have spent less time arguing price and more time reading spec sheet. I really am surprised at all of the RV'rs that seem to think that these numbers don't matter. A lot of attitude that if I can afford it, I can pull it. Kind of scary. Told my first mate that we roll safe or we don't roll. A few extra dollars for the "right stuff" is worth it to us. Be safe.
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Might be better to upgrade to a 250 or 2500 truck. The change to the ratio can be pretty expensive unless you DIY. A 1500 is not going to be happy pulling a trailer much over 5k. Just my opinions
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11-29-2016, 12:59 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Plaskett Creek USFS Campground CA Hwy 1
Posts: 507
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One of the reasons I bought a 2015 Winnebago 2101DS was the 3,220 pound carrying capacity.
2015 Winnebago 2101DS
2015 Chevrolet Tahoe LTZ
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11-29-2016, 01:10 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,442
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sejac55
I really am surprised at all of the RV'rs that seem to think that these numbers don't matter. A lot of attitude that if I can afford it, I can pull it. Kind of scary.
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Agreed 100%. Was at the dealer over the weekend and saw a young couple take delivery of a new travel trailer. When they hooked it up, the truck dropped over 5 inches. As they pulled out, they bottomed out on a speed bump... still smiling
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