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Old 01-31-2010, 08:25 PM   #1
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Black tank flush system?

About to purchase our first RV of any kind. I am looking at two similar models of TT. One has a "Black tank flush" and the other does not. Different sales people for each trailer so of course they contradict each other saying needed/not needed.

Can this be added to the one that does not have it if its a big help to have? If so any idea of cost?

2010 Models of TT I am looking at:
Keystone Sprinter 311BHS - has the flush syst.
Keystone Sprinter Select 31BH - Does not have the flush syst.

Thank you for any help on this!

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Old 01-31-2010, 08:41 PM   #2
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It is generally more cost effective to get it beforehand installed at the factory than having it installed later. A black tank flushing system can't be all that expensive it would seem.

If it were me, I would put more weight into what the floor-plan is, the amount of inside and outside storage, amenities, etc. in making a decision as to what RV would fit my needs, not whether it had a BTFS.

Most lower end RV's don't even come with them. I use mine and it works very effectively, but if the tank is used correctly and maintained correctly, generally you really don't need one.

My neighbor has a new 5ver purchased last November with a BTFS but he refuses to use and maintain his tanks correctly so he now has tank level indicator problems. I will try to help correct his problem and educate him a little in proper use and care, but sometimes people just don't get it.

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The black tank flush kits can be put on aftermarket & cost around $25-30 & your time to install. If you have it done at the dealer, plan on adding $65 per hour (minimum 1 hr charge) for a tech to install it. Here's a YouTube video on installing a kit:

YouTube - RV Black Water Holding Tank Flush Kit

However, don't bother adding one if the unit you like doesn't have one. It's an extra "fluff accessory" that isn't missed if it isn't there. As long as you use plenty of water when you flush, always keep your dump valves shut until your tanks are full (prevents solid waste build up on tank bottoms) & properly service your holding tanks, that's all that's necessary to keep them in working order.

Since this is your first RV purchase, have you decided on what you will be using to tow the Sprinter? A properly sized tow vehicle for your TT is very important to the towing/stopping safety of rv-ing.

BTW, I see this is your 1st post. Welcome to iRV2.

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Good info. Ok so not all that necessary. Makes since to just use lots of water and let the takes fill for a full clean out when you do dump.

Yes the floor plan is dead on for us. The two TT have the exact same floor plan, just one has all the power niceties and an out door kitchen. I just have a hard time springing for the extra $5k when its nailing the main needs with the less expensive model. (the floor plan)

The nice one does also have an "enclosed" under belly. But just don't see enough gain for that in the price.

I have the tow rig covered with my 2x4 2000 F250 Crew Cab diesel that is built for towing. I have been using it for the last 10 years towing 10k car trailers to events my small company sponsors.

Lori thank you for the link on the install. Yes installing before its ever used would be the best way to go! Thank you for the welcome.

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So in the video they talk about taking a hose inside the bathroom to put water down into the black tank. If this works to flush it out, then no problem as this floor plan has a 2nd door right into the bathroom. I can easy with no issues take a hose in there.

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Adding a flush kit is very easy.. how much it's worth I don't know

You can also stick a good flush wand down the toilet to flush it.> The RV-Twister I think is a good one.. The Valterra Master Blaster *Is* a good one (Before I ever saw one I buile one for myself along the same lines) and it's way better than the best installed flusher I've ever used.
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The nice one does also have an "enclosed" under belly. But just don't see enough gain for that in the price.

A thought...If you camp in cold weather (at/near freezing or below) for extended periods, an enclosed underbelly will allow the heat from your ducted furnace to keep your water pipes from freezing & it also protects the underside components on your TT from being exposed to road debris/dirt. However, the panels also limit your access to such components, in case repairs are needed. It is nice to have, but, again, something you'll have to decide for yourself if worth having.

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Good point. We would like to use the trailer in cold weather. (We live in Oregon) I would guess the enclosed under belly would also keep the trailer warmer when in use as well. I need to look at how they "enclose" the area. I wonder if its a sheet of plastic or wood? Seams like water would still get in that space when towing in wet weather, would guess they just put a few drain holes in it?

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It won't be wood. If it's like what was on our previous 5-r, it'll be a stiff vinyl, usually several sections, overlapping & rivited at the edges.

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