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Old 11-09-2009, 04:59 PM   #1
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First post! We have started looking at used tt's (~2000-2008) and know we want a 25-28' tow model. We have a Dodge Ram for towing, so can move a bit beyond the light weight only models. We plan to use the tt on 2-3 week trips, primarily in the fall and spring months, so the weather will be mild/moderate. We have been watching Craig's List and a few other local spots as well as visited the RV Show. (Of course, the new tt's are great and we did find the new Komfort Trailblazer to have a great floor plan, with a big price). So, my question is how do potential buyers of used tt's learn which are good tt's and which might be cheap and not hold re-sale and need lots of repairs? I know everyone has their favorites, but there must be some way to get more educated on buying a used tt. Thanks.

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Welcome aboard and hope you find the perfect trailer. To get started, first you need to determine your trucks GVWR, GCWR and laden weight. THIS SITE will help with a lot of the terms and how to figure just how much trailer you can tow.

First thing to learn is NEVER believe the dealer (truck or RV).

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Old 11-09-2009, 08:08 PM   #3
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Hi, thanks for the reply. The Dodge Ram diesel 3/4 ton should be able to pull up to 16,000 pounds.
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Run through the numbers on the website. Down at the bottom of the page is a a towing calculator spread sheet.

You will find out that with a 3/4 ton truck, you will reach your GVWR and max pin weight well before you hit the maximum towing capacity. Also, the towing capacities are based on a base model truck, no cargo, no passengers, no accessories and no hitch. With a 16,000# trailer you will probably get a pin weight of close to 3200#. But with a 25 to 30' TT or 5er you should be good to go.

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If you are talking about a 16K trailer, you will be over loaded. If you mean GCW (weight of trailer & truck) you should be OK.
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Saying you have a Dodge Ram is kind of like saying you have a Chrysler product. What size Ram is it?
A 1500 with a Hemi will have a fairly good towing rating, but gas milage will suck if you load too heavy.
A Cummins equipped 2500 will have far more towing ability and get better fuel economy to boot.
First thing you need to do is load the truck up with family, fire wood, tools, what ever you will be taking camping with you and make a trip to the local scales. Get an accurate weight and subtract that number from the trucks GVWR. Also you can subtract this as scaled number from the trucks GCWR to give you a real good idea of how much room you have left over before you exceed the manufacturers specs.
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We do have a Cummins equipped 2500 and are looking at tt's in the 25-28' range. We will go visit a local scale and check out the truck weight. Thanks for the advice.

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We do have a Cummins equipped 2500 and are looking at tt's in the 25-28' range. We will go visit a local scale and check out the truck weight. Thanks for the advice.

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You may want to invest in an exhaust brake. I am on my third Cummins diesel and my new 3500 has an exhaust brake from the factory. I would not tow in the mountains without one. Guessing on what I know about my last 2500 diesel you are at the limit in weight ratings at the 25-28 foot range. You reach the maximum load rating for the pin long before you hit the max tow rating. That's why 3500 are more popular with the 5er crowd. On another note, you might want to consider a smaller 5er instead of a bumper pull. Their road manners are superior in every way to a tt and they offer more living and storage space then an equal length tt. Most who have pulled both will never go back to a bumper pull. good luck,
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IMHO I would never again tow a TT over about 25 feet in actual length. When you get above that, the tongue weight approaches 1000 pounds really fast, not to mention the inherent sway problem associated with a TT. This can be midigated with a proper hitch like a Hensley Arrow. But that is another two thousand dollars or so. A quality fiver around 25 feet will be an easy pull for your truck, will give you more room, have decent storage capacity, and be much more stable on the road.
Manufacturers like Northwood (Arctic Fox) and others make some really nice smaller fivers especially for you.
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Old 11-10-2009, 06:03 PM   #10
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Hi, thanks for the reply. The Dodge Ram diesel 3/4 ton should be able to pull up to 16,000 pounds.
Are you sure that the 16,000 pound number you quoted isn't the CGVWR? That's the Combined Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (the weight of the trailer + truck). I'm not aware of any 3/4 ton truck that can safely pull a trailer of this weight. Most 3/4 tons are in the 9,000 - 13,000 pound range for the trailer, depending on how it's equipped.
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do not forget to add hitch weight before you drive through the scale. My 16,000 lbs Superglide is just over 310 lbs. Some hitches may be somehow less.

By the way, Superglide is a nice one to have if your truck has short box.

That said, we travel with Citation Supreme 26RKS in tow. 11,000 lbs GCWR, pin weight of 2,200 lbs. Our 3500 Cummins 4x2, single wheel axle truck has CCC of 3400 lbs, which is very good for the size of the truck. So, lets do some math:
hitch - 300 lbs
myself, dear wife, german sheppard dog - 500 lbs
misc in the cabin - 100 lbs
misc in the box - 200 lbs
pin weght - 2200 lbs

Grand total = 3300 lbs

That gives us 100 lbs as a reserve cargo capacity. Not much, I'd say. We should have bought 1 ton dually for our 26' trailer to be on the safe side.
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Your truck is more than enough for any tt you look at in the 25-32' range. Worry about the hook-up after you make your decision on the trailer to purchase.

We used just about every search engine on the internet when we were new and it became a lot of fun. Once you decide on the manufacturer you can narrow down your search and put in the models that interest you.

Don't forget the internet auctions such as eBay as they have some great deals and most of the time the pictures are very good quality and show everything.

Listed below is an example of an eBay listing.

2008 ROCKWOOD 8315 SS Front Kitchen 2 Doors NEW LM:eBay Motors (item 110455773859 end time Nov-16-09 12:01:37 PST)

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Never believe the dealer is right. They will tell you everything you want to hear. Mostly BS (bad service). Take your time, go to a campground and ask lots of questions like pros and cons. Subscribe to TRAILER LIFE MAGAZINE, read read read. 1st should be your budget, how much do we want to spend? 2nd how much will my truck pull safely, including you, wife, children, goodies and toys. Always have a safety margin. Read the forum, as there is lots of helpful info from people who have rigs and who have had them.
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Our 30' SunnyBrook TT took about a year of looking at Ebay every day just to decide on a brand & model. When we found something interesting it was googled and studied. We did the local RV shows to look at current quality even though we planned to purchase used.
NOW, want to hear what we did and how long it took to purchase a 40' motorhome?
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