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Old 07-11-2016, 11:31 PM   #1
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Building the ultimate dream rv

OK so I've been doing a lot of thinking since I bought my Lance TT this April.

I've upgraded a lot of things to make it function better and I'm thinking ... why don't manufacturers think of these things as standard. Don't get me wrong, the quality and features on the Lance are outstanding but I think as a whole the industry can move forward a lot faster.

So I'm thinking we should build the ULTIMATE RV together in our forum.
There are so many things that I think would work great....and I hope someone in the RV industry will catch on and take heed, if not I will atrmot to build this dream RV myself (with a little help from my friends

What would yiu like to see in the RV, don't worry about a little added costs.

I would like to see.. PLEASE ADD YOURS.

LET'S BUILD THE ULTIMATE RV

1. Teflon coated black/grey tanks.
2. Tank level gauges on the outside near the dump drain.
3. ALL RV'S come with Siphon 360 installed as standard.
4. Better usage of shelving space. ie. more shelves per cuboard.
5. ENDLESS hot water system. Can't remember where I saw this but it's available.
6.........??
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OK so I've been doing a lot of thinking since I bought my Lance TT this April.

I've upgraded a lot of things to make it function better and I'm thinking ... why don't manufacturers think of these things as standard. Don't get me wrong, the quality and features on the Lance are outstanding but I think as a whole the industry can move forward a lot faster.

So I'm thinking we should build the ULTIMATE RV together in our forum.
There are so many things that I think would work great....and I hope someone in the RV industry will catch on and take heed, if not I will atrmot to build this dream RV myself (with a little help from my friends

What would yiu like to see in the RV, don't worry about a little added costs.

I would like to see.. PLEASE ADD YOURS.

LET'S BUILD THE ULTIMATE RV

1. Teflon coated black/grey tanks.
2. Tank level gauges on the outside near the dump drain.
3. ALL RV'S come with Siphon 360 installed as standard.
4. Better usage of shelving space. ie. more shelves per cuboard.
5. ENDLESS hot water system. Can't remember where I saw this but it's available.
6.........??
The high end rigs can be spec'ed with pretty much whatever your heart desires. Check some of the higher end units, especially class A diesel and you'll see options you hadn't even thought you needed yet. Multiplexed lighting systems, mascerating toilets, electric dump valves, multiple tank level displays, power sliding interior doors, etc.

Granted there are some budget ways to get there. An instant hot water heater costs a lot less than an aquahot system. A SeaLevel tank level system with interior and wet bay displays isn't too much money, and it's more reliable than the old three sensor systems. Personally though, I'd just like to see them expend their efforts building better quality products.

Of course, on the other side, you have to remember that each little thing might only be a few dollars more, but it adds up really quick. For example, a Suburban hot water heater might cost 300-400 dollars, but then the tankless "endless" water heater will cost three times that. The 360* siphon cost $30, while the regular vent cap costs $5. A good shower head plus shut off valve might set you back $50, while the generic Camco head that comes in most units is only $10. To me these are the kinds of things that are small and easy to handle at your leisure.

Meanwhile the real nuts and bolts of the rig need to be done right at the factory. Things like real wood cabinets with no particle board, melamine, or vinyl wallpaper on them. Properly insulated walls and ceiling. Double pane windows. A frame and suspension that can actually handle the weight of the rig, it's occupants, and all their belongings. Furniture and trim that doesn't look like it was smuggled out of a Miami retirement home. Dinettes with backrests high enough to actually lean your back against. I could go on. . . . . . . .
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Don't get me started, I have a 2016 Coleman and it is getting tons of upgrades over time. But I would like the ultimate to have:

Every inch of usable space have some sort of compartment for storage.

LED lights standard.

Sliding trays in all cupboards and in the basement.

Already have upgraded leveling jacks to lessen the shake.

That's just a start for me.
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I have an Arctic Fox and have made many improvements to it. All manufacturers cu quality to keep costs down. They also do it to cut weight.
See Level tank gauges should be standard on all RV's
Get rid of the cheap plastic sinks and faucets.
Dump those cheap fans and put in Fantastic Fans with their covers.
Install built in surge protectors.
Install built in vacuums.
360 vent is a no brainer.
Dual batteries standard.
Higher quality foam for all cushions, better fanfic also.
Quality construction, no staples or other junk.
More care in sealing to prevent leaks.
I could go on and on. This is a topic that has been absolutely beaten to death. Until manufacturers quit cutting corners the situation will not improve.
You do understand that in business what counts is the bottom line. That is the problem.
The main problem is that most purchasers care more about cost than quality. The five dollars spent for some bling is more important than five dollars spent on quality.
This problem has one solution and that is to refuse to buy the junk we are offered. That won't happen so the solution is to buy a frame and have at it building your dream yourself. That is the only answer available now.
This applies to all categories of RV's. From the low cost ultra lights to the most expensive custom coaches the approach is the same.
There are few items on any RV that couldn't be replaced with a higher quality alternative.
For me I enjoy making modifications and understand that that is the only way to get what you want.
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