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Old 09-19-2014, 11:21 PM   #43
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Out of all the information about keeping your Fridge cool and when to use electric and when to use propane no one has suggested to turn on your Generator while you are traveling I keep a hot stick in my hot water tank so when I travel I turn my Generator on for several reason No.1 it exerciser it self and No.2 it keeps the Fridge cool and No. 3 it helps keep my Batters up and No. 4 it keeps the hot water tank hot.
The last time I check on the price of Propane ( depending on where your at ) the cost is just about close to what gas or diesel is today.
Just a thought.
Luckily we have the water heater connected to the engine cooling system. When we arrive we have VERY hot (180°) water and it'll stay hot for quite a while if we don't use it. When I hook up to shore power I turn on the electric element, for showers I turn on both the electric element and the gas.
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Old 09-20-2014, 05:23 PM   #44
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I called transportation Canada and that's what they told me.
That means cars and trucks that run on propane can't be used in Canada. I believe someone gave you the wrong information.
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Out of all the information about keeping your Fridge cool and when to use electric and when to use propane no one has suggested to turn on your Generator while you are traveling I keep a hot stick in my hot water tank so when I travel I turn my Generator on for several reason No.1 it exerciser it self and No.2 it keeps the Fridge cool and No. 3 it helps keep my Batters up and No. 4 it keeps the hot water tank hot.
The last time I check on the price of Propane ( depending on where your at ) the cost is just about close to what gas or diesel is today.
Just a thought.

Not everyone has a generator.
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That means cars and trucks that run on propane can't be used in Canada. I believe someone gave you the wrong information.
Ummmm ok.

But I will call again monday to see what's up
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Out of all the information about keeping your Fridge cool and when to use electric and when to use propane no one has suggested to turn on your Generator while you are traveling I keep a hot stick in my hot water tank so when I travel I turn my Generator on for several reason No.1 it exerciser it self and No.2 it keeps the Fridge cool and No. 3 it helps keep my Batters up and No. 4 it keeps the hot water tank hot.
The last time I check on the price of Propane ( depending on where your at ) the cost is just about close to what gas or diesel is today.
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Naw, not even close to the price of gas or diesel. $1.64 per gallon or there abouts. Less than half the price of diesel.
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There is no road use tax on propane that is one reason it is cheaper than gas or diesel. One can also buy "red" diesel that doesn't have the road use tax either. It has red die in it for use off road by bulldozers and such. If you get caught with red die in your diesel tanks on road it is a big fine.
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Naw, not even close to the price of gas or diesel. $1.64 per gallon or there abouts. Less than half the price of diesel.
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I don't think so!
I paid $3.73 a gal for propane yesterday, (in Wausau, Wisconsin)...diesel was $3.739.
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mel_s I think you may need to reconsider where you buy propane. I don't pay near that much! The last time I had a 30 lb tank filled it was $2.37/gallon. I have seen it as low as $1.53/gallon in California no less. I buy mine from propane delivery companies direct if I can.
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That means cars and trucks that run on propane can't be used in Canada. I believe someone gave you the wrong information.

Yes I would agree. Drove through 4 provinces and seven states wit the fridge running on propane this summer. I live in Ontario and never heard of a law that requires the propane to be off other than some tunnels etc.
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In all likely hood the rules quoted were for air and oxyacetylene tanks. They are required to be turned off when traveling.

However there are benefits and hazards to traveling with open propane tanks.

While on you can keep the fridge and hot water tank running as well as the heater. This will help in keeping the fridge cool, the water hot and the ability to add additional heat to the unit should that be necessary.

Propane lines can break if an accident occurs while you're on the road or if an appliance moves while traveling. With no restriction in the line, the propane in the tank can escape. Since propane can ignite with only a small amount in the air (eight parts per million of propane), any triggering device in the vicinity will light it. A broken propane line is extremely dangerous and can trigger an explosion and fire.

If you elect to travel with the refrigerator operating on propane, you must turn it-and all appliances-off prior to entering a fuel stop. Most propane tanks can only be filled to 80 percent capacity to allow expansion of the gas in the tank, and prevent the pressure relief valve from allowing gas to escape.

Through experience I have found that if fill the fridge full and do not open the door excessively I can travel for 10 hours without the fridge getting warm. I run on propane and shut the fridge off (and the propane) just before leaving and then when we stop turn the fridge (and the propane) back on. Stuff in the fridge remains cool and the food in the freezer remains frozen.
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There is a check valve at the regulator which shuts the propane off in case of a free flow condition such as might happen in an accident or a ruptured line. That is why one must open the valve on a propane tank slowly so as to not trip the check valve which shuts off the gas to the RV. I leave my propane on all the time and never shut it off except to change tanks. Of course if required I would shut it off to go through a tunnel etc.
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Propane lines can break if an accident occurs while you're on the road or if an appliance moves while traveling. With no restriction in the line, the propane in the tank can escape. Since propane can ignite with only a small amount in the air (eight parts per million of propane), any triggering device in the vicinity will light it. A broken propane line is extremely dangerous and can trigger an explosion and fire.
From: Propane Properties, Characteristics and Propane Gas Combustion Information

Lower Limit of Flammability 2.15%
Upper Limit of Flammability 9.60%


Thats % not PPM and to be more accurate if will ONLY ignite when it's around 8%.

I never turned the propane off when driving my van.




Otherwise the engine would have stopped as it was running on it.
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From: Propane Properties, Characteristics and Propane Gas Combustion Information

Lower Limit of Flammability 2.15%
Upper Limit of Flammability 9.60%


Thats % not PPM and to be more accurate if will ONLY ignite when it's around 8%.

I never turned the propane off when driving my van.



Otherwise the engine would have stopped as it was running on it.
You are correct although we are talking different units of measure. I got the information from a propane site so ???

I drove for many miles with propane powered vehicles and really like it as a fuel. I switched to diesel because I was not able to get enough power from propane to pull our 18,000 lb 5er.

Regardless of the units of measure, propane is dangerous. Since I was able to do a satisfactory work around (our fridge would stay cold while we traveled) I saw no need to take unecessary risks. I would fill up once a day so would of had to turn off all appliances anyway.

Our MH is all electric so propane is no longer an issue. Now instead of having to turn off propane in tunnels I worry about height. Just cannot win! LOL
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I called today and I was misinformed about traveling with propane. It is legal in bc.

So terribly sorry for the misinformation.
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